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Mastermind VI - Winner: Scooby Due!

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The start date of this round is To Be Determined - we'll wait for the current (Arthrene's) game to finish

We'll open this round for guesses at 5AM EST Monday, June 7. Not saying *I* will be up that early, but I know some of you are. Hopefully any confusion on the new rules will be eliminated as we go along.

Prize for this round: 10 uncirculated Lincoln cents (all different dates and/or mint marks, my choice), and a 2011 Blue Book. Picture will be coming shortly.

As if this game weren't nerve-racking enough, I've tweaked the guessing rules.. AND the list... oh, and how many to guess.

Please read everything over, especially the guessing rules (below the rules quote) and let me know if you have any questions before we get started.

List of 22 that I will pull 12 from:

ZWD Zimbabwe Dollar
AUD Australian Dollar
CAD Canadian Dollar
CHF Swiss Franc
EGP Egyptian Pound
ISK Iceland Krona
FJD Fiji Dollar
FIM Finnish Markka
GHS Ghanna Cedi
BWP Botswana Pula
NZD New Zealand Dollar
MUR Mauritius Rupee
SEK Swedish Krona
SGD Singapore Dollar
USD US Dollar
UZS Uzbekistani Sum
IQD Iraqi Dinar
GRD Greece Drachma
DKK Denmark Krone
SZL Swaziland Lilangeni
XAU Gold
XAG Silver


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Scooby's original rules

For those of you not familiar with the game:

Someone (in this case, me) selects 10 12 currencies and arranges them in a certain order (NO duplicates will be used!).

The players (y'all) - yes, I'm from the south, try to guess which currencies and in what order.

After each guess, you will get clues as to how many are correct in total, and how many are in the right position.
But, it's up to you to figure out which ones!

Let's take a test run:
Let's say I've chosen: MXN, JPY, XAU, USD, CHF, GBP, EUR, GRD, VND, DKK
And the first guess is: AUD, CAD, XAU, NZD, GBP, SGD, XAG, IQD, SZL, SEK
Then the clue would be 2 right in total (XAU and GBP) and 1 in the right position (XAU).

But, again, all you will get from me is 2 correct, 1 in the right position. You have to figure out which is correct and in the right place.



Guessing rules for this round:

There can be UP TO THREE guesses per day (1 day will be defined as midnight to midnight EST). The first daily guess is subject to the "normal" rule that applies to all guesses:

(A) If you post a reply that has too many or not enough selections, you may repost with the correct number of currencies. DO NOT EDIT YOUR POST - just repost.

Second guess of the day:

(A) You must wait until all pending guesses have been replied to with # right/right position.
(B) You must be the FIRST second guess after (A) has been satisfied. If you are the second or third, etc, you must wait until the following day and your guess will not be attributed. This sounds confusing, but I will illustrate below.
(C) You may not delete your guess! Once you post, you must leave it up.

Illustrations of (B) above:

Scooby posts guess 1 of the day
svslav posts guess 1 of the day

Both are answered with # right and # in the right position.

Both have another guess at the ready! Posting nearly at the same time, svslav posts a smidgen faster than Scooby. Svslav will get a reply with # right and how many in the right place, while Scooby has to wait until the following day to post any other guesses.

Another scenario:

Scooby posts guess 1 of the day
rikcando posts guess 1 of the day

Both are answered with # right and # in the right position.

Both have another guess at the ready! Rikcando posts right away, but Scooby sees he has accidentally listed one of the 10 twice, so needs to adjust it. Rikcando gets an answer on # right and # in the right position - and now since all prior guesses have been answered, Scooby can post his second guess of the day... unless someone else posts before he can.

Last scenario:

Scooby posts guess 1 of the day
rikcando posts guess 1 of the day

Both are answered with # right and # in the right position.

svslav posts guess 1 of the day

Scooby and rikcando are out of luck until svslav gets a reply!

svslav gets a reply with # right and # in the right position.

Scooby pounces and gets his second guess in.
nod2003 posts guess 1 of the day.

Rikcando and svslav now have to wait to post their second until Scooby and nod2003 get replied to.

but.. it's 9PM and I've gone to bed! (yah right) Scooby and nod2003 will get replies when I fall out of the rack in the morning, and svslav, rikcando, and nod2003 won't get a second guess for that day.

Third guess of the day:
(B) You can take a third guess in the same day (subject to all rules above!), but it will be your final answer. If you are wrong - you are eliminated and can no longer play.


Edit: Blasted thing keeps putting letters in my title! LOL
Edited by xshift
06/11/2010 08:36 am
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OK, I have a question.

If I finish my popcorn, do I have to wait until everybody else finishes before I can get more?

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I'm Confused. : /

That whole second guess thing is throwing me off.
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 Posted 06/04/2010  2:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rikcando to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So, if I am quick enough I can win by second guessing myself.

Anyone figure out the permutations on this one? A couple hundred trillion?

Oh, and in that third scenario, I get up at 5:30am, so I'd likely have the drop on 'em. :)
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If I post a second guess 12 milleseconds after someone else, and I intended it to be a second guess, it will be overlooked as a valid guess, and would receive no response. What if my second guess is actually intended as a third guess? What if I have the correct answer, post it, but do so as you are responding to someone elses first guess?

I think I will post with the words 'Second Guess' and 'Third Guess' just to be safe.
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Oh, and in that third scenario, I get up at 5:30am, so I'd likely have the drop on 'em. :)


That's about what time I go to bed.
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If I post a second guess 12 milleseconds after someone else, and I intended it to be a second guess, it will be overlooked as a valid guess, and would receive no response.


Yes.. but you could re-post it the next day as your first guess, if you wanted. Or you could post an entirely different one.


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What if my second guess is actually intended as a third guess?


Well, if it's intended as a third guess of the day, I would hope you'd have already guessed twice


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What if I have the correct answer, post it, but do so as you are responding to someone elses first guess?


I'm not Speedy Gonzalez, so if you're posting, you have a pretty high chance of seeing there is a post already waiting for a reply. Page order of posts will carry - If I'm replying to that post and you're posting your second of the day, if we post the same minute and I post first, it's fine. If *you* post first... your wait begins

You can say 1st/2nd/3rd guess if you like - I'll probably keep track in my posts, too.

Did that help or is it now clear as mud?
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Yes, you are doing better at plugging the leaks than BP. But..

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Well, if it's intended as a third guess of the day, I would hope you'd have already guessed twice..
You can say 1st/2nd/3rd guess if you like - I'll probably keep track in my posts, too.


What I meant by 'third guess' was that if I knew (or think I know) that my answer is 100% correct, even if I had not yet used my second guess option. If it was mistaken as a misplaced second guess someone else might be able to use it as their first guess on that same day that mine was overlooked. This was the idea of posting '1st, 2nd, and 3rd' in my post.

I hope that doesn't muddy the waters that you are trying so hard to keep clean.
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Quote:


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Well, if it's intended as a third guess of the day, I would hope you'd have already guessed twice..
You can say 1st/2nd/3rd guess if you like - I'll probably keep track in my posts, too.



What I meant by 'third guess' was that if I knew (or think I know) that my answer is 100% correct, even if I had not yet used my second guess option. If it was mistaken as a misplaced second guess someone else might be able to use it as their first guess on that same day that mine was overlooked. This was the idea of posting '1st, 2nd, and 3rd' in my post.


Third guesses are subject to the same rules as second guesses.


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Third guess of the day:
(B) You can take a third guess in the same day (subject to all rules above!)


So you still have to be careful of the pending posts, and there isn't any gain in saying it's your third - it's there just in case you absolutely positively KNOW you are right I don't think anyone's used that 'last' guess yet.


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Yes, you are doing better at plugging the leaks than BP.
...
I hope that doesn't muddy the waters that you are trying so hard to keep clean.


On that note... I had to go find my waders..


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What if I have the correct answer, post it, but do so as you are responding to someone elses first guess?



Quote:
If *you* post first... your wait begins



But, if it's the correct answer - why wait? Just declare the winner.
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So.. you can break a rule, as long as you win? tsk, scooby!

I'm not checking guesses that are waiting until the next day anyway Along with that, rikcando is right, someone could post that same answer later that day. This is a chance (small, but there) you would take if you post a second time.

It's a strategy thing - you don't have to, but the option is there if you want to try it.

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I'm about to fall asleep in my keyboard, be back in the morning
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tsk, scooby!


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Man am I confussed. Tried this the other day and that was hard enough. Now I get up to three guesses a day? Can it start on a Monday since I dont have computer access on weekends? And good luck all. WOLF
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