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 Posted 07/26/2010  09:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xshift to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Should we try a test-thread where we write exclusively in Latin?


lol.. ixnae on the atinlae readthae! I'm having enough trouble without having to do an entire post in latin

So.. BRITANNIARUM is "of the Britains" while adding OMNIUM makes it "of all the Britains" - did they feel the need to get that specific?

Last question (for now )On the Wikipedia page from svslav, it has the following:

VICTORIA DEI GRATIA BRITANNIARUM REGINA FIDEI DEFENSOR

Not having the OMNIUM, it has this translation:

Victoria, by the Grace of God, of the Britains Queen, Defender of the Faith

Apparently in strict word order. In any case, on a six pence of Victoria we see:

VICTORIA DEI GRATIA BRITT REGINA F D

which would equate to the expanded inscription above, however that one has BRITANNIARUM and not BRITANNIAE. Is that a case of them using the incorrect expanded word, or can either be used in this case - or is there something else going on such as, "what they really meant with that during Victoria's reign is..." ?

thanks again, this is definitely educational
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 Posted 07/27/2010  04:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ah. I think I get it now.

Many of these coins have "BRITT" as the abbreviation. However, "Britannia" has only one "T". What's the explanation for this? It can't be a mint error, since it can be seen on all the smaller coins of Victoria. The answer can be found, once again, in the numismatic traditions of the Romans.

A common convention seen in the highly abbreviated legends on ancient Roman coins was to add multiples of the last letter in an abbreviated word to indicate the word is supposed to be plural. Thus, "AVGG" was plural for "AVG" (Augustus). Even "AVGGG" can be found on coins from periods when three emperors reigned jointly.

So yes, "BRITT" is supposed to be plural, short for "BRITANNIARUM". If you see just "BRIT" on a coin, it's probably supposed to be singular.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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 Posted 07/27/2010  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xshift to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
aaah.. I did not connect the Romans' way of pluralizing to these.. thank you, Sap!
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