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 Posted 07/28/2010  11:19 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add carmykle to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Ladies and Gentlemen of the CCF, I need you opinion. I've never been in this predicament before and need guidance.

I may be dealing with a minor that is also a member. We are attempting to trade US State Quarters for Canadian Provincial Quarters. I am forwarding him 10 to compensate him for his 10. My concerns are: is this appropriate if he is a miner, should the parents be notified, and is this an honorable practice?

Presently coins will be received and I am currently of the opinion I should return them to avoid any perceived impropriety.

Thoughts please.

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 Posted 07/28/2010  11:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
im a minor and I deal with members all of the time with no problems.

i think it'll be alright
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 Posted 07/28/2010  11:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add unnkown95 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also am a minor, usually when I trade the other person just asks if my parents are ok with it or they talk to them via telephone
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 Posted 07/28/2010  11:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Namachieli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
id say one for one trades are alright.

It also has to do with age/maturity. I've met 15 year olds that are sufficiently mature and adults my age that act like they are 16, no offense 16 year olds... but you know... I think just being into collecting coins at that age shows some level of maturity and wouldn't worry about it unless it starts involving large transactions.

I understand your caution though... this day and age parents will slap you with a law suit so fast you'll have pennies coming out your ears.
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 Posted 07/28/2010  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carmykle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Thanks gang, he just emailed me and he's 26. You can never be too carefull these days. And no I'm not being paranoid!
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 Posted 07/28/2010  12:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AndrewC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For what it's worth, I'd want to give my okay before Coinman1014 made a trade with anyone. That's one reason why he can't be messaged directly; anyone who wants to send him a PM has to send it to me instead.

On a related topic, I really like the strict moderation here. I never worry about him being on this forum, even if I'm not at the computer.
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 Posted 07/28/2010  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tumbleweedtrumpet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's fine. It's the kid's coins, and if the parents get mad, that's their problem to get over.
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 Posted 07/28/2010  1:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Keep in mind, a minor cannot legally enter into a contract. Dealing with a minor means they can walk away with your coins, and you can't do a thing about it.
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 Posted 07/28/2010  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AndrewC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's called "larceny by deception" and it's illegal for minors to do it as well. Just because they can't enter into contracts doesn't mean they are allowed to steal.
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 Posted 07/28/2010  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tumbleweedtrumpet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Stealing has no age limit.
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 Posted 07/28/2010  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coins92 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have done trades/transactions in total of more than $2500 with other members and I'm only 17. I don't think it should be a problem.
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 Posted 07/28/2010  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wheatguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agreed with all the other posts. My parents don't care that I buy and sell online, as they know I won't do anything idiotic and it presents a good source of income for me. If my parents paid for my coins it might be a different story...

I've bought and sold many coins here and on ebay, and have never had a single problem.
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 Posted 07/28/2010  5:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tim Stroud to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Thanks gang, he just emailed me and he's 26.
Don't sweat it man. I was 47 when I joined the CCF but my profile said I was 13 years old for over a year until I finally figured out how to fix it. I have dealt with some of our teen aged members before and had absolutely no problems at all. In fact every transaction I have ever made here has been problem free.
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 Posted 07/28/2010  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tumbleweedtrumpet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In my experience here, all of the young numismatists have been very mature.
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 Posted 07/28/2010  7:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add specksynder to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I applaud your caution. I would definitely encourage trading e-mails through the parents. Better to be safe. If you rip off a kid you look bad. If you give a kid too good a deal you look suspect.
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 Posted 07/30/2010  2:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carmykle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry for the panic attack. Not only did everybody provide great comments that helped to ease my apprehension, I feel much better about the forum. You hit every one of my concerns about legal issues.

Maybe I was approaching this from the wrong angle, maybe I'm the one that should seek protection. Lord knows they're a 100 fold more computer savvy than I ever will be.

To all our Major and not so major, minor members, you're way ahead of me when I was your age. I didn't start collecting until I was 21. Even then I took major breaks.
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