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My initial reaction was that it was a "reject mark" by the BEP due to the color and size. BEP uses a red marker for rejected notes which are pulled.

This is a security thread which is longer, thicker than the "1" (FRB district number) and is embedded in the paper stock.

Question here is "are there any others like this out there"? (chunk this large)


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I have a small microscope I look at fibers with, mainly for the purpose of seeing if they are printed on the surface of the note or to see if they are actually woven into the fiber of the note. I would be interested in seeing that one under it.
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Check with a 10x or better loupe, and you can see if it's a fiber in, or a mark on, the note.
Older Large size bills have lots of the big fibers.
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Let me repeat this from the OP and not to offend.


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This is a security thread which is longer, thicker than the "1" (FRB district number) and is embedded in the paper stock.

Question here is "are there any others like this out there"? (chunk this large)




Below are two links to what the fibers "should" look like and the process of making the paper stock. I call it a security thread as with $1 and $2 notes this is the main feature.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/moolah...mypaper.html

"Raw Materials"
With paper money, the materials are as important as the manufacturing process in producing the final product. The paper, also known as the substrate, is a special blend of 75% cotton and 25% linen to give it the proper feel. It contains small segments of red and blue fibers scattered throughout for visual identification."

http://www.madehow.com/Volume-3/Pap...urrency.html

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I suppose I wasn't clear in what I meant. I wasn't suggesting it wasn't a true red fiber, I was just saying I wanted to see it in more detail.

And to answer your question, no I have never seen one as pronounced as that before. Even the threads from old notes don't appear half that size. We do need to chip in and get you a scanner though.

I remember seeing a note that had a blue thread that I was able to see while the note was sitting a few feet away from me, but again it wasn't near that large.

So are you thinking it will command a higher premium? I think it might, people are always wanting things that are unique and unusual and this fits the bill, so to speak.
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I had sent the pic to executive currency and Fred Bart got back to me. His comment is that it is unusually large and thick but not many collectors would place a premium on such a variation.
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