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Valued Member
United States
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I hope I'm asking in the correct section. I'm curious about this piece. Anything you can tell me, it has the number 1413 stamped into the rim. I'm fairly certain that is a production # but I'd like to find out how many were produced if anyone knows.  Thank in advance, Rick Identified - moved to Medals forum - Sap |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Looks to be some sort of Commerative coin. What does the rev. look like? Is this .999 silver?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
689 Posts |
I love that design. where did you acquire it?
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 Australia
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Welcome, and yes, you're in the right place.  As chrisild said, can we see the other side? And is there anything printed on the inside or outside of the box to indicate a manufacturer? Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Valued Member
 United States
72 Posts |
I'll take a picture of the rev. after dinner. I bought this in the mid-eighties from a family friend. I guess it's just over 7 ounces and I believe it is .999 silver
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Valued Member
United States
72 Posts |
Here is the backside and both inside of the lid of the box and the rim is stamped The Metal Arts Co. Inc. Rochester New York on the rim it is also stamped .999 silver  Edited by dzrick
09/19/2010 7:41 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
672 Posts |
Its a "silver round" worth about spot silver by weight. That one should carry a premium because it looks kinda cool. As for how much of a premium... someone else might know...
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Ive never ever seen both the Indian head bust and the Morgan dollar bust on the same coin, the Indian head bust looks better,though, IMO that is a beautiful coin. Any colector would love to have it.... |
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Australia
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Found it. It's part of a series of six medals honouring "great coinage engravers" - the set comprises Augustus Saint-Gaudens, V.D. Brenner, Charles E Barber, Christian Gobrect, Euaenetos of Syacuse and Longacre / Morgan. They were put out in the 1960s by Tovio Johnson (whose name appears on the back of your medal), a coin and medal dealer based in Maine. The Saint-Gaudens and Brenner medals can be seen here. Tovio Johnson's products were widely advertised in the coin magazines of the day; back in the early 1960s, medals wer egoing through something of a craze. The Metal Art Co. still exists, though apparently no longer issues medals. If this guy (who also depicts the Euaentos medal) can be believed, they weren't too popular with coin collectors back then and many of the medals that were struck went unsold and were melted down. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Valued Member
United States
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Never seen it before, but it is a fantastic piece.
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Valued Member
United States
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I just found paperwork behind the velvet that explains that Tovio Johnson was the designer of the Longacre-Morgan. He commissioned these to be made by the Artist Robert Steven Schabel. This was struck and copyrighted in 1964.
Sadly nothing is mentioned about production numbers. I guess it doesn't matter if it's true that many of these were melted down.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Weird medal. A mish mash of styles lumping together bad renditions of the works of two different engravers who had completely different styles and who never knew each other and then put a building on the back that neither one of them ever worked in. Probably just a way to sell overpriced silver. Frankly I really don't like it and to me it would be nothing more than bullion.
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Valued Member
United States
72 Posts |
Interesting opinion, Conder. Isn't any commemorative just a way to sell overpriced metals?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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No, some are actually intended to mark an important event or honor an individual. Usually those commemoratives have a small markup over the cost of the metal and manufacturing because thir main purpose is not fundraising.
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Valued Member
United States
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Point taken Conder, but I still like this piece.
Rick
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Posted 09/19/2010 6:24 pm
