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New Member
United States
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Valued Member
United States
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Full Head aside, I fail to see how this grades at MS66
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Valued Member
United States
462 Posts |
I agree. I guess the coin must look better in hand.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Full Head aside, I fail to see how this grades at MS66
Why? The images are scans which make grading difficult. If PCGS and CAC thought the coin made 66 with the coin in hand, I'd give them the benefit of the doubt. MS66 seems fair to me. Feuchtwanger, there are different levels and strengths of full heads and a true one is actually very rare. Compare an MS 1916 to a 1917 and you'll see the difference in strike. A coin doesn't need to have a "true FH" in order to be classified as one.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I would call it MS-64. If it looks better in hand maybe 65, not 66.
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Valued Member
United States
291 Posts |
Maybe that dealer submits a lot of coins to those graders?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1534 Posts |
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Maybe that dealer submits a lot of coins to those graders?
I doubt it. PCGS and CAC wouldn't stake their reputation just for a few submitters, and graders don't get to see who sent the coins. The perception that TPG's give higher grades to the bulk submitters is untrue and pretty unfair, given that the people who claim it don't have any evidence to back it up. Also, the images are scans which can be extremely misleading so I doubt the coin is overgraded in hand.
Edited by wheatguy 10/02/2010 3:49 pm
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Valued Member
United States
176 Posts |
Following the link to ebay and clicking on the picture at the bottom of the page will take you to the same coin on the Heritage site. Clicking on the picture there will bring up a very large pic of the coin. This is the picture I based my opinion on. I'm sorry, I like the SLQ, but this one just doesn't 'do it' for me.
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Valued Member
United States
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I agree, the coin doesn't "do it" for me either. A high MS grade does not equate with high eye appeal. The spotty toning is just godawful.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It shows the different opinions people have about toning...because the toning looks really nice to me, definitely bumping up the coin's eye appeal.
Edited by wheatguy 10/04/2010 5:49 pm
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Toning isn't the problem, its that you usually don't get an MS-66 grade with that many marks. Not to mention that the head is NOT full, but their standards may be different for 1916's (actually they seem to be)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
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Toning isn't the problem, its that you usually don't get an MS-66 grade with that many marks. Not to mention that the head is NOT full, but their standards may be different for 1916's (actually they seem to be) It's most likely that the huge images are magnifying the problems, in hand I'd be surprised if the marks in the pictures are noticeable or prominent. 1916's have weak details which make TPG's give the FH designation a lot more leniently.
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Rest in Peace
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I would be too, but usually MS-66's are not permitted to have ANY significant marks in the focal point.
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