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Please Help Identify This Egyptian Coin | Replica Algerian

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Please help identify this coin. It maybe an Egyptian 1701-1800 Zeri Mahbub coin.

The coin is 2.5g, 21.3mm and has a hole near the top. It looks like it could be made of gold.

If anyone can read Arabic, I would like to know what the Legends say and what year it was made.

Thanks - Joe K.

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Identified - moved to Exonumia forum - Sap
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I had this figured as the same fantasy coin I posted a while ago, but this may be the real deal.
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I'm not totally certain, but below the Misr looks to be the character 'an which equates to year regnal year xxxiv, 34.
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Thanks for your help alganbagerap.

Can I determine the actual date of the coin from its regnal year?

I see dates like AH1187///(119)7 in the coin book. Can you explain this date notation?
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Sorry, guys, but this is another jewellery imitation, just like the one alanbagerap posted, only slightly better in execution. The coins are loosely copied from the designs found on Ottoman Algerian coins from the 1800s; the lettering is slightly garbled and hard to read, but the named sultan on both sides is Mahmud II.

The reason finding a date is so hard is because this "coin" doesn't have one; It's actually a "two-headed" imitation, and the coins they are derived from had the dates on their reverses. The side with four lines of script (top pic) is copied from the obverse of a silver budju (KM# 68). The three-line side is from the fractional coins, like the 1/4 budju (KM 67) or 1/8th budju (KM 74) of the same time period.

Needless to say, it's not likely to be made of gold. Gold-plated is the best you could hope for, but brass is more likely.

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I see dates like AH1187///(119)7 in the coin book. Can you explain this date notation?

I assume you're looking in the 1700s Krause under Egypt, say KM# 127? In this case, "1187" is the date on one side (in Arabic numerals) and the number "7" appears on the other side. "1187" is the year in which that particular sultan, Abdul Hamid I came to power, while "(119)" is there to tell you that, unlike most Ottoman coins, the "7" in this instance actually is short for 1197, and is the actual year in which that coin was struck.
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Thanks Sap,

You saved me a lot of grief.
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Strangely enough I originally posted a link to my own query on a similar coin, but then thought yours was the real deal and removed the post.
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