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 Posted 08/22/2006  6:54 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Glyth to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I received a 1961 proof(unopened) set a few days ago and noticed that the half dollar had a mark on it. It is a proof, even though it may look like it in the picture, and is in the original packaging. The card in the packaging mentioned oxidation so I'm guessing that's what this is. Here's a picture...

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Also in the same set I noticed the nickel had some gold toning to it. Does this change the value at all?
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 Posted 08/22/2006  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Glyth

Let me be the first to extend my condolensces for the Franklin !!

The coin has no value as a proof and is religated to a bullion coin with that whatever it is on it !!

The nickel with a slight gold tone is not affected for value. but if it is hazed then it is .

I would also like to let you know that the general concenus is that there is no such thing as an un opened proof set,,

care to share a pic of the envelope ?

Rick
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 Posted 08/22/2006  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Becky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would get it out of, or clean off that polyfilm if it was mine. I would worry about affecting the coin.
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 Posted 08/22/2006  8:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Glyth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a pic of the envelope...

Proof-Half
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 Posted 08/22/2006  8:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Glyth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What should I do take the franklin out of the packaging? Also, what would the difference between a hazed nickel and slightly gold toned nickel be?
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 Posted 08/22/2006  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hazing has the appearance of an milky looking whiteish film that is most easily seen in the fields,, it sometimes can be seen through the mint cello, but not always.


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 Posted 08/22/2006  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Glyth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In that case the nickels just toned then. I'm just going to leave everything as it is unless someone think I should do otherwise. I just can't figure out what's on my Franklin.
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 Posted 08/22/2006  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add adobero1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Completely off the subject, but whenever I see a 1961 Franklin proof, my first thought is to flip it over and check for the doubled die on the reverse most noticeable on the E Pluribus Unum and United. Nice photo in the RedBook. Maybe you already checked!
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 Posted 08/22/2006  10:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Glyth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry no doubled die reverse here but no I hadn't checked so thanks for pointing that out.
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 Posted 08/23/2006  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Glyth, have you examined the Mint cello around the half to see if there is a pinhole in it? A pinhole would cause the half to be exposed to the envelope which would more than likely have sulfur compounds in the paper. Sulfer is a big enemy of silver
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 Posted 08/23/2006  7:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Glyth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can't see a pinhole but it is possible that there is a small one there. Is the set now not really considered a proof set with the franklin in this condition. Would it decrease the value to remove the Franklin from packaging and cut the other coins apart so they're seperate?
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 Posted 08/23/2006  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Glyth

Its still a proof set ,with a terribly impaired Franklin half.

If it were mine it would be cut apart in no time,, and singles made from the coins, but thats me and my style of collecting,

I would probly take the half and give it a soak in pure acetone, If it had no affect, it would become part of my bullion until I sold the silver.

Rick
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 Posted 08/23/2006  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Glyth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, I decided on just cutting them apart.

~Glyth
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