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 Posted 11/07/2010  11:06 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Goodoleboy58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello everyone, brand new here and new to coin's in general. I am currently in Afghanistan and one of the local vendors let me take a few pictures of his collection. I am not sure what anything is, or if they are authentic at all, but I figured I'd post on here to try and get some input. I am not looking to find gold, just wanted to get a good collection to one day pass down to my kids. Sorry for the blurred pictures I must not have a steady hand!

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It's difficult to say what they are, we would need to see closer pictures and a few coins at a time to be able to ID them. There are a lot of fakes out there especially in that part of the would so unless you are buying from a known dealer. I wouldn't buy anything from a street merchant.

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Well, the display here covers pretty much the entire spectrum of the coinage history of Afghanistan. Here's a few of what I can make out:

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The oldest one there might be Bactrian, struck by Alexander the Great's succcessors in Afghanistan 300 - 100 BC. Unfortunately, I can't confirm any Bactrian for sure, but the zoomed in pic of the highlighted one looks promising.

The Indo-Scythians (100 BC - 100 AD) ruled after the Bactrians were kicked out; their coins were similar in style, though becoming cruder and less "Greek".

The ones I've labelled "Kushan" are from the Kushan Empire,which ruled Afghanistan in ancient times (100 - 300 AD). There are other Kushan coins on the table, these two are the clearest and most prominent.

The "Hephthalites", known to us more commonly as the Huns, struck coins like these circa 400 - 500 AD.

The Horse and Rider jitals were struck in the period 800 - 1100 AD, gradually becoming less and less horse-like. These look crude, perhaps post-Islamic Conquest types.

There are quite a few Islamic types; these would date from the 1600s to the 1800s. Mostly copper, though that appears to be a couple of Islamic silver coins in the top right corner.

The British India coin is of King Edward VII, early 1900s.

All the coins appear genuine to me. Or, I should say, I can't see any obvious fakes from the photo. They look pretty much like Afghani coins you'd see on a coin dealer's tray in the West. I own several similar to most of the types I've highlighted.

A few things to note. Technically, buying, selling and exporting ancient coins (defined as "anything older than 1748") from Afghanistan is illegal without a permit. But, as you are no doubt all too keenly aware, Afghanistan is pretty lawless right now. Afghanistan's antiquities laws date from 1958, well before the troubles there started. These days the authorities probably have better things to do than harassing visitors over a few coins, but they would have legal reason to confiscate them if detected on exiting the country.

The converse side is of course, uncertainty over the use the funds from sale of these antiquities is put to. Militias and terrorist groups are known to use the sale of plundered and stolen antiquities to help fund their cause.
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Thank you for the input. As far as the proceeds, the base itself sets up this market every Saturday for the local Vendors to come in and sell their stuff to help stimulate the local economy. So in that regard I do not forsee any legal issues with buying and transporting any of the items. They also bootleg DVDs and sell them for a few bucks apiece and the Military has managed to overlook that for over 10 years now. I do appreciate your input though, I will try to do some more research and maybe take some more pictures next week.
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I was travelling through Afghanistan way back in 1970, (check my user profile) and from what I can remember, they look typical and genuine enough to me. To be sure, there were lots of copy coins sold to tourists, but for the most part they were easily identifiable as such at the time. The coins shown here I think were all common at their time of circulation as currency.

Just a note of warning: If you intend to travel to India, be careful that you don't get caught trying to leave India with ancient Indian coins. There a lot of government officials in India that love to be officious, sometimes offensively so, and will try to gain brownie points from their superiors by having you arrested for illegal export of Indian National treasures.

An Australian lawyer who was also a coin collector, was caught and jailed for 6 months for trying to leave the country with about 30 Indian Mughal coins.
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