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Your thoughts on this seller? I've bought a few very nice type coins from him and was satisfied, and was wondering if anyone else has bought from him.

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Link > [seller]rpholdercoins[/seller]
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I've never bought from them, but they sure do have some nice coins. Looks like they specialize in higher end stuff
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I bought this one from him. Be competent with grading and value - he sometimes gets a little (and I mean a little) high on both, and you're going to get some very, very nice coins. Recommend without hesitation.
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Be competent with grading and value - he sometimes gets a little (and I mean a little) high on both


This example of his is 'pushing' a little high on grade and value ....

http://cgi.ebay.com/1954-S-D-OMM-Je...5d2c1ee52fas

I grade VF-30 ...... and the overpriced 2010 RedBook has an MS-60 at $26.00!

Is it buyer beware all the way with this seller

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I grade VF-30


It has luster from what I can see from the images so a VF grade is out of the question in my opinion. I know very little about Jefferson nickels but I think it has a shot at MS, just weakly struck. I think the coin in hand is nicer than the photo is indicative of.


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Is it buyer beware all the way with this seller


Looking at other auctions of his I doubt it. Some seem pretty overpriced but in general it seems like he's a fair dealer with some very nice coins.
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I have to agree with Wheatguy on this one. That nickel is MS. I don't know about "Gem BU MS65-66" as stated in the listing, but MS for sure.

Quoted from the Cherrypicker's Guide regarding this variety:

"Finding an early-die-state specimen that is well struck is quite difficult, and such a coin would command a high premium. The overall strength of the strike is the important factor in the value of this OMM."

This leads me to believe that the strike characteristics seen on the seller's coin is typical for this variety.

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I have to agree with Wheatguy on this one. That nickel is MS. I don't know about "Gem BU MS65-66" as stated in the listing, but MS for sure.

Quoted from the Cherrypicker's Guide regarding this variety:

"Finding an early-die-state specimen that is well struck is quite difficult, and such a coin would command a high premium. The overall strength of the strike is the important factor in the value of this OMM."

This leads me to believe that the strike characteristics seen on the seller's coin is typical for this variety.


Here's one that sold about 3 weeks ago at Heritage:

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PCGS MS65. Went for $218. It's nicer than the PCGS MS65 which sold before it, for $276.

Holder's coin is a slightly weaker strike on the obverse, but nicer all around and easily MS65 itself.
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After seeing the Heritage pics, I have to agree that the seller's coin is every bit as nice if not nicer. I'm thinking the seller's asking price is probably not a bad deal.
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Here's one that sold about 3 weeks ago at Heritage:


Thanks for the link. It really puts into perspective how weakly struck these can be and how much demand these varieties can have.


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After seeing the Heritage pics, I have to agree that the seller's coin is every bit as nice if not nicer. I'm thinking the seller's asking price is probably not a bad deal.


At first sight of the listing I initially thought the coin was overpriced a good deal, but now .
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Yeah, it surprised the heck out of me.
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Good discussion ...... and thanks for the Heritage link SuperDave.

Lesson here for me is that strike quality for a given year matters ....... if that were a mid-80's Jefferson the absolute lack of detail on the dome would relegate it 'normal circulated condition' ..... about my VF-30.

It's always good to keep learning ..... perhaps now I should go back and check the over 150 total 1954-D Jefferson I have found ...... if only I can find them in the 'whiskey sack storage system'.

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if only I can find them in the 'whiskey sack storage system'.




One would generally not so much apply the "quality of strike" rules to Moderns, but nickel is just as hard a metal today, and just as hard to strike, as it was 100 years ago. So, it must be accounted for with Buffs and Jeffersons. That's why my learning curve with grading them has been....deficient.
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Here are the coins I picked up from him recently:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...T5W9TGM%253D

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...T5W9TGM%253D

http://cgi.ebay.com/1838-Stars-Seat...em5adbf0984d

http://cgi.ebay.com/1855-O-Seated-L...em5d29b7553a

http://cgi.ebay.com/1853-Arrows-Sea...em5d2a632d56

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...T5W9TGM%253D

All of these are in my album except the 1853 dime, which I need to crack out. They're very nice and more brilliant than the pics in many instances. I originally wanted the following VDB but it sold before he could take it down, however I actually like the green one because it contrasts with my blue lincoln and Indian cents

http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-VDB-Lincol...em5d2a558eb6

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