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Need Help And Information On --1954, 5 Cent (Nsf)

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 Posted 12/26/2010  9:03 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add commoncents13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have a certified 1954 (NSF) nickel VF-20 and I am curious what kind of value that piece has, or expect to have, as I can't find any details of the other 2 known coins. (Anywhere)!

Why is it that, I see other coins that have a number reference i.e.: 1, 2, 3 ...known, but not one ever has a value posted?

What is the story, known history, on how it actually happened on the 1954 (NSF), nickel Variety? Or were to look?

Please and thank you.


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 Posted 12/27/2010  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hhbkiddo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hello,
sorry about this.
there appears to be a problem with my computer.
If you can, please send me a note through my web site Travelband.
I heve interesting information, which I can not post here, about your exact coin
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 Posted 12/28/2010  03:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commoncents13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey everybody, I'm still here.
One more question, to add would someone share with me, who has
population reports, where the other two have been graded
and what grade they got?

Thanks
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12/28/2010 03:43 am
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 Posted 12/28/2010  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hhbkiddo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
that is information which ONLY the owner of the two others has.
And, surprise, there are probably 3 others....
there is ONE in the 2009 POp report.as a VF20 ICCS.....it is NOT one of the two others....
there are only a very few people who know about these coins... and it appears there may be more around then first thought...
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 Posted 12/29/2010  05:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commoncents13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
H, Is what your saying that population reports are confidential to only the owners?
You say that "there are probably three others..." more than the (two known), sorry with mine now registered (three known).
Allot could be said about probably.
Where were they graded (certified) was the question?
Forgive me for being blunt!
Its easy to say or speculate that there might be more or even rolls without proof, surely we would have heard!

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12/29/2010 05:38 am
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 Posted 12/29/2010  06:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commoncents13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
oh ya! and H, please stop yelling words at me it hurts my feelings!

Basic rules Internet Yelling (07/03/2007)

Do not post in all capital letters. This is the Internet equivalent of yelling and is very annoying to most people.

Me included.
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 Posted 12/29/2010  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hhbkiddo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i am not yelling... just making sure it is understood...
there seem to be people who do not understand...
there is NO speculation at all. Just simple facts.
2 are in one collectors possession.they are graded...much higher than yours. the other is owned by a collector in Ontario.
pop report 09 shows ONE only.... sorry I yelled again..., oh pardon me , I just wanted to emphasize the 1
and again.... with yours there are 4...and perhaps even a few more. so a reliable rumor has it, with negotiations under way presently for the purchase of 5, ungraded.
your problem will be to sell it.I do not think that a dealer will touch it and pay really good money for it.
Collectors who have these or similar coins seldom wish to be known.
that will leave the private sector or auction. auction will be expensive if you consider everything. and they will not pay you cash like a private investor / collector would...
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 Posted 12/29/2010  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cazzuey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good info hhbkiddo, but have any idea what it could fetch?
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Yes, I do..., but common sense tells me to shut up or I might start yelling again to get my point across.But consider this:
This coin was not a real mint error, although done at the mint.
AND, here lies one of the problems. It is not a high MS, NOT publicized , advertised, promoted etc. like the 1936 1 and 10 cents with a dot.
and who is to say or guarantee that NOBODY else , sorry I emphasized again, does not come up with a cigar box full of them?
I know, as a fact, happened in Vancouver in a well to do area. An elderly lady walked in to a coin dealers store carrying a box full of coins. ALL rolls.
her hubby passed away (RIP)and amongst other gold and silver coins etc... left this box full of rolls: 1945 - 1948 all silver dollars. needless to say, this was one of a lifetime opportunity for the dealer to be honest or not.
I know wht he did. for the last 3 years the coins are being introduced in a slow and proper manner into the market.
Now, one might think that the numbers are not big enough to affect the market?, well, think again..
enough now of the 1954 NSF... the owner should consider himself happy and not get greedy.Also, a discussion with an accountant might be good investment (capital gains), as most dealers and auction companies ONLY ( here I am being rude again and yell)pay by cheque for their purchases, while most collectors pay cash...
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 Posted 12/30/2010  10:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cazzuey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
put it this way, is it worth less than $300
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 Posted 12/30/2010  7:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hhbkiddo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it is worth what anyone wants to pay, but for sure a multiple of 300..
key is to find someone who will pay big bucks...
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 Posted 12/30/2010  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cazzuey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks hhbki DDO
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 Posted 01/04/2011  04:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bibd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm going to guess it's worth high 4 figures -- just wild (and vague) speculation.
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high for some is low for others....remember , a zero is also a number.. just depends where you place it...
but do not be mistaken here....
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 Posted 01/29/2011  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commoncents13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi everybody! I can now take a big breath and so can, all of you!
This very fine, Canadian 1954 (NSF) 5 cent piece, is no longer in my possession and no longer hold it. Finding and having one Certified was Historical in itself, now it is essentially about to make History further. News to some, but not so to others! By going to public Auction, and is being! I can't say more as I am not permitted to make a more direct reference according to the rules. (to me)as I see it.

From a personal point of view, Wow! Stressful but what a ride, a thrill and honour, it has been. To have held one of these pieces is about or even more rare than walking on the Moon, limited to only a very few! With that analogy, I would like to take a moment to salute the Challenger Shuttle Astronauts that gave up there lives 25 years ago yesterday, for space exploration.

It's still hard to believe, that I have been a part of this extremely rare coin, essentially stirring the Numismatic World with one of the rarest Canadian coins.
Now, I know why and respect why some more senior here on this site, would not comment and now understand, so not to influence.
Now, I can speak about it, a little myself, IMHO.

Hopefully one day the 1954 (NSF) 5 cent, may rank close with the 1936 dot Penny. Some might say never!... I say whatever!... oh! and what-never? One, never knows?
That's, beaucoup longtemp! For those that want it to rain, to figure it out, without...

I feel a moral obligation and believe I may be able to contribute to this site or to others who may encounter the same or similar circumstances, and offer some insight on my adventure, IMHO.

So, I'm willing to share some wisdom learnt by me, especially when you are dealing with such rarity. It's very tricky to go through the process with the negative that you may and will encounter, as soon as you mention an extremely rare coin. Well, to be honest it's sometimes justified because there are allot of close ones out there, and that's especially true with the 1954 (NSF) 5 cent, try getting one Certified! They will scrutinize!
"Like Meteorites, there are more Meteor-wrongs!"

(So the first thing to do is, breathe), that's easier said than done and the best thing to do is (research!) and document it close you up. It's still too early for a happy dance!
Knowing what you have if you can, is key, then if you still think you have something, don't let some one buy it from you if they knock it down, don't get mad, just listen and say, Thank You! Easier to say, but walk away.

Examples; of them saying! It's not that rare, there's lots out there, you don't know or it's not in very good condition and my favourite, don't get greedy!... That's really funny!
In my humble opinion write or wrong all some want to do is minimize it, breaking you down, hopping you give it up at below fair market, if they can and are good at it!
(So be aware!) They play that e-v-e-r-y day! If it's a good offer, it will still be there later.
Some even get upset with you when you say no to them and cant have it, then you really know you're onto something and don't go back to them.
*Sure! They got to make a buck, but fair is the word!

**Now! It's not all bad and I'm not saying or suggesting that everybody is like that,
In-no-way. But! Some are and they are often the first one's you talk to, so be aware.

Don't be discouraged by them, they can undress you standing up, be convincing and very depressing, just know the core is good and that there is, better!

(So wait!) If you still believe you have something, document it lots. Lots can happen when you don't have it in your hands, possession is 9/10th of the law so take lots of pictures, keep notes and a couple of close people you trust knowing, helps too!

(Get it Certified!) Its value will multiply xxx?. Pick a reputable Certifying Service and keep in touch with them, with photos and emails before and during....That way ownership can never be questioned, either way. If it turns out correct, and back in your hands, things are looking up! Now, you can do a little dance! Take another big breath, even several with a paper bag as needed, because!
The- run- has- just- begun.

If someone makes you an offer, don't accept the first few, it's hard to do, but it's a good exercise! Even more so! That is, if you are in possession of an ultra rare piece, or anything like, the 1954 (NSF) 5 cent, that hasn't had a noted value established, yet!

Remember, if they are genuine offers, they will still be there later on. Negotiate in good faith and stick to your word, if you accept an offer don't go back asking for more. Remember to breath and Good Luck!
Sorry for the wide screen dont know what caused that.
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01/30/2011 04:00 am
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Wow! That is really interesting and exciting Common. Very glad you shared some of your experiences. I'm happy you did not make any rash mistakes and sell too early.

I really hope when your coin is settled in a new home that you can share more of this story. How did it come into your hands...what were some of the offers made...not to mention what it sold for...:)

Good luck with this one...and congrats!
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