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1875-CC Seated 50 Cent -- Photos Added, Please Grade!

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Sorry about the picture, the liberty looks better in hand.
No need to be sorry, it comes with the territory.

Still, worst case you are up $13.

But if LIBERTY is stronger in hand, then you are up $52!
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You sure I could not get a F-12? The eyes are both still visible.
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From what I read, LIBERTY is a diagnostic. However, I am not a grader by trade nor practice (that is, I usually buy on eye appeal alone; a reason why I only buy coins at shows and not online).

Your mileage may vary. From the pictures, it appears to have (what I would like to see in) good eye appeal. That being said, I probably would have paid $40+ and been more than happy about it.
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Just thought a VG would be more like this http://cgi.ebay.com/1875-CC-SEATED-...em2eb1f6a2fe
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I would call that one a Good, since there is no evidence of LIBERTY at all, but the date is well defined.

It is just my opinion. By the way, I am reading the grading information from the Red Book. I have no idea how a TPG would grade them, but I could probably look up some slabs and get a better idea.

Since you bought the coin and have photos, I am going to move this topic to the Grading sub-forum. I am interested in some opinions that I know are better than mine!
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It might make VG10 but I agree with jbuck, too much wear to honestly call it F12. It looks to have an old, light cleaning also but that is often considered "market acceptable". It was a good deal for $40 any way you look at it.
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If I look at it really closely with 20X loup I can see all letters in "liberty" but barely
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I believe, and I could be wrong, that it has to be visible from the naked eye.
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sorry, I know I seem to being trying to push the grade as high as I can, but I might just be making my self see things, if it's a VG-8 it's a VG-8. You guys are the experts.
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I am no expert and still say it is just my opinion.

You do have us at a disadvantage since you have the coin in hand.
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Far from it brother, far from it.

As far as "LIBERTY" goes, it is a commonly used diagnostic but not etched in stone. Some pieces are weakly struck in this area and could even grade VF without a full Liberty.

The reverse of your coin looks VG to me. Maybe VG10. The obverse has overall wear more consistent with VG than with fine.
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Far from it brother, far from it.

I disagree

Thanks for all your help guys
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Its a weak Fine or high VG in my book, LIBERTY is traditionally a diagnostic for Seated Liberty coins to an extent, but because of a huge number of strike issues across a wide variety of dates, it cannot be the only factor. Sometimes you have LIBERTY very weak on an XF or AU coin and people go grading it F or VF...

As for the ebay auction, I'd say thats a strong G-6
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Thanks shadow! So in this case lets say it's an AU-55
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What if the rest of the coin is in G4 condition, but the liberty is almost entirely visible?
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