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Determining Degree Of Rotated Die

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anyone know what is the best way to determine the degree of a rotated die and what degree is worth keeping or not? I have not been lucky enough to find one yet, lol. but found a small rotation and question popped up. I checked out the Lincoln Cent site, but the link to build a rotation calculator is no longer available. I'm not good with angles but if I was to guess, when I flip it the bottom of the monument is about at a 15% slant. Or if the top of the head is the 12 on a clock, the top of the other side would be about a 101/2? if that make sense.
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There is a tool that you can order designed by Leroy Van Allen that measures within 1-2 degrees, if you google it. Others may have better ideas, but I've been thinking about buying it anyway.

As far as I know, the degree of rotation needs to be at least 90 degrees to garner a premium, but I would think any rotated die would be at least cool. Obviously 180 degrees is the most desirable.
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thanks for info on a site, was hoping there was some home remedy sort of deal, lol. this one would definatley not bring a premium, but not sure whether it is worth holding onto for a collection or if it is just a common find that should go back to the bank. I just started and looking to build a collection, but no since in hanging onto a penny if that is all it is worth.
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What year and/or mintmark?
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I use a 2X2 marked out using a protractor. You line up the head side and flip it over. The longer lines toward the top are 15% on either side. Here is a crude webcam pic of my DIY.

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Thanks for the idea ebm, thats a great idea! Exactly what I was looking for! Don't have a protractor right now but was able to measure 90 degree angles on a 2X2 for now. Will be going out for one tomorrow. The date is a 71, no mint mark Scoob. I love this site, will be a pro in no time with all the good advice, lol. Here is the coin in question. Not much of a reverse, but still early

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Looks by that it would be about 20 to 22 degrees rotated. The most that I found was about 10 degrees.
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It's less than 22 degrees. It's pretty easy to create measuring devices out of 2X2's Find the centers of the sides and draw a line connecing the opposite sides finds the 0,90,180, and 270 degree points. Lines connecting the opposite corners finds the 45, 135, 225, and 315 degree points. Once you have those 8 references it is easy to find the points halfway between those. That gives you 16 reference points each 22 1/2 degrees apart. If you really need to you can do the halfway thing again to get references about 11 degrees apart.
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