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Liberty Seated Dollar PF

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It is my understanding the ANACS grade conservatively. What are your thoughts on this?
is it a Yellow label or Blue label? I think 63 looks pretty close on this coin in my opinion but your understanding about ANACS is all according to when it was graded so that is why I asked about the color of the label
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I think the yellow labels are the ones everyone has been talking about they have seen them upgrade with other companies. I know the blue labels was what they used in the old place and the yellow is used under new ownership and everyone feels is very conservative. maybe others will chime in on that with their opinions. I do know some of the yellow labels I have seen seem to be graded conservatively by my standards
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Thank You Brian
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Sorry about that - I listed the values for the proof half dollars instead of the dollars.
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What third party grading company are you considering?
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I was thinking PCGS. Will they crack it open if it still is a PF63 or will they leave it in the ANACS slab?
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When you submit a crossover to PCGS, you can assign a minimum grade. If they don't think the coin will meet that grade, they won't remove it from the slab.

FYI, PCGS does not do crossovers for their new secure service.
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When you submit a crossover to PCGS, you can assign a minimum grade. If they don't think the coin will meet that grade, they won't remove it from the slab.
But you can't ask for a higher grade than is on the slab its already in. So if they think its PF-63 or above they will crack it out and reslab it. If they think its below 63 or something will keep it from grading at PCGS they will leave it in the slab and send it back
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Went to the dealer today. This one said it won't cross. Now I'm at a crossroads of what to do. The scales are leaning more to 63 but, not by much. I guess I'll have to sleep on it for awhile. I want to Thank all of you for your time and input.
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Went to the dealer today. This one said it won't cross.


He said it won't cross? At PCGS or NGC? Why? It has a good chance at crossing at 63 IMHO.

By the way, I bought this coin last year in this old ANACS holder:

Liberty-Seated-Dollar-PF

I posted on the PCGS and NGC message boards asking if it would cross. Nearly all of the experts said it would not cross. I sent it to PCGS anyway. Here it is now:

Liberty-Seated-Dollar-PF



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I didn't mean cross. I know it would cross. I meant grade up. It is ANACS PF63, I was hoping it would make PF64.
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I think it would be tough to grade up as well. It's a nice coin but getting a early proof is tough to 64 and higher since there is such a big increase in value and they want to ensure they are not overgrading. Most TPG are being conservative. You could have it crossed over and send to CAC and see if they give it the gold jelly bean.
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I didn't mean cross. I know it would cross. I meant grade up. It is ANACS PF63, I was hoping it would make PF64.



Oh, that is different.

If you send it in as a crossover, the 63 minimum is guaranteed (or they won't re-grade it at all) and you would have a slim chance at an upgrade. If it was mine, I'd send it in for crossover. My guess is you have 10% chance at a 64 but maybe a 20% chance at a 63+. The likely outcome is it comes back in a PCGS or NGC holder as a 63.
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was thinking PCGS. Will they crack it open if it still is a PF63 or will they leave it in the ANACS slab?


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I didn't mean cross. I know it would cross. I meant grade up. It is ANACS PF63, I was hoping it would make PF64.

What I am saying is that you can not tell PCGS that you want them to grade it only if they think it will grade PR-64. You can only ask for a cross at the same grade and take a chance of it upgrading or staying PR-63 or coming back in the ANACS slab. There is no way to say only crack it out of the ANACS slab if you think it is PR-64, if you think its a PR-63 leave it in the ANACS slab
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