OK, the first is very likely Venetian and someone is selling one as such:
http://cgi.ebay.it/VENEZIA-BEZZO-DA...180452307722
Haven't verified the soldi as described by the younger me, but give it time.
I had considered that Venice was an almost colonial power, with areas of economic hegemony around the Mediterranean where their law (and money) ruled; but no match yet!
So how did the (much) younger bagerap work it out?
http://cgi.ebay.it/VENEZIA-BEZZO-DA...180452307722
Haven't verified the soldi as described by the younger me, but give it time.
I had considered that Venice was an almost colonial power, with areas of economic hegemony around the Mediterranean where their law (and money) ruled; but no match yet!
So how did the (much) younger bagerap work it out?



















