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 Posted 01/23/2011  09:41 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add glenntree to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi,
Normally I deal in u/k coins and over here we tend not to clean a coin, is it the same with American coins
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 Posted 01/23/2011  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tampabaygrampa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The consensus is that a cleaned coin loses much of its value. Welcome to the forum.
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 Posted 01/23/2011  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add latman100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It doesn't matter from which country a coin is from, you shouldn't clean it. Cleaning damages a coin and damage reduces not only value, but appeal as well. Of course with every rule there are exceptions. Ancients for example, but as a general rule of thumb, stick with what you do in the UK.
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 Posted 01/23/2011  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add m9frank to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately it's not uncommon for folks here to clean old coins.
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 Posted 01/23/2011  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add glenntree to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I may be wrong but I have cleaned silver coins, never brass or copper as this in time will discolour the coin it will eventually go green. but silver coins if not cleaned tend to turn blackish like all other silverware if not cleaned.I`m in a delemer as to what to do.One book says one thing and another book says different, can`t win.
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 Posted 01/23/2011  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add specksynder to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
glenntree -- Cleaning your silver coins will introduce small scratches and eventually harm the detail. If stored well, the tarnish/toning will often be kept to a minimum. But regardless, the toning/tarnish does not damage the features of the coin underneath like cleaning will.
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 Posted 01/23/2011  7:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I may be wrong ...

you said it, glenntree!
While you're absolutely free to do whatever you want with your possessions, you should know that when you clean your coins you seriously depreciate their value, whether it is for yourself or for your heirs.
Welcome to the forum, I hope you stick around to see different ways to care for your coins!
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 Posted 01/23/2011  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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silver coins if not cleaned tend to turn blackish like all other silverware if not cleaned

If stored properly, silver coins will have minimal toning/tarnish. Also keep in mind that silverware is in contact with food, stuck in people's mouths, and washed with detergents so silverware is handled much differently than coins.
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01/23/2011 10:10 pm
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 Posted 01/23/2011  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
and Welcome to the USA. Imagine you once owned us.
I've seen on TV you too have that program called the Antique Road show. If you ever watch it you would hear them state almost all the time not to clean old things. Sometimes they will say this is worth $100 but if not cleaned would be worth thousands. Not sure about your pound stuff since we use dollars.
Imagine someone washing off the dust on an Egyptian Mummy for example.
Old stuff should remain old looking. Collectors normally everywhere prefer originality.
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 Posted 01/23/2011  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add latman100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Carl, as usual, is spot on. Even with the ownership thing, but at least you guys weren't convicts and forced to go there.

Do a search here for cleaning and you will find many, many topics. You will also find the overwhelming consensus is not to clean, especially if the coin has numismatic value over melt melt value.
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I may be wrong but I have cleaned silver coins, never brass or copper as this in time will discolour the coin it will eventually go green. but silver coins if not cleaned tend to turn blackish like all other silverware if not cleaned.I`m in a delemer as to what to do.One book says one thing and another book says different, can`t win.

And if you look up cleaning coins in Google or Yahoo, you would find many sites on how to do that, what to use, etc. Cleaning coins is as common as cleaning you car. Many people do that for the same reason as cleaning their cars. Many people imagine that in order to impress others with their coin collections, all the coins must be really pretty and shinny. Yes your supposed to keep a car clean. Same with your house, boat, bicycle, However, those are sort of different items and not something to be collected although some do that too.
Many collectors just don't like dull, dark, discolored coins so they shine them up. The main difference in the above is coins, or any old antiqued item, has accumulated STUFF that when removed, removes some of it's history and in most instances, part of the material too.
Example is Silver tarnishes and that tarnish is an accumulation of the Silver and other substances from the air. You remove that Tarnish, and so goes some of the Silver. If you do this to a Silver coin constantly, eventually no more coin.
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 Posted 01/24/2011  3:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xphobe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Problem with cleaning is there's no going back. If you find out later you've made an expensive mistake, you're stuck with it. I am reminded of an old joke:

A guy walks into a dealer's shop and says "I'm looking for a really high-quality 1893-S dollar to complete my Morgan series. Money is no object!"

Dealer says "I have one you'll love" and he shows the customer a magnificently toned MS-65 with deep purples and iridescent pastel pinks and greens rippling across the mirrored surfaces.

Customer says "I must say, that's a stunner. But I like my dollars blast white."

Dealer says "Uh... you know what? I happen to have one of those also! Let me go get it."

So he runs back to the back room, and gives the dollar a quick dip. Then he dries it and brings it back out. "How's this?" he asks.

Customer says "I like that one too. In fact, I can't decide, so I'll take em both."
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 Posted 01/25/2011  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add glenntree to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank a lot for your replies, yes no more cleaning for me.!
on the other side of the coin whot about the grading, I for one
like to see a coin slightly worn, fine / extra fine more than
uncirculated. The latter and proof coins seem to be very personal
to the owners and therefor, are seldom for auction / sale; My
Question is how can you tell for sure an uncirculated coin.
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