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grovey Valued Member United States 440 Posts	Posted 04/16/2005 07:12 am My high bid is $100.00 so far.... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...MEBI:IT&rd=1 [:p] Report this Post to the Staff

Susanlynn9 Forum Mom United States 5877 Posts	Posted 04/16/2005 07:49 am I could see it going for $145+. There haven't been any of these listed on ebay that I could find. The highest grade I could find was MS65, so it does have the potential to go higher. Report this Post to the Staff
SFDukie Pillar of the Community United States 980 Posts	Posted 04/16/2005 11:24 pm Firstly, from the pic coin looks goregeous. POP total in higher grade pcgs is 7, 34 at NGC per heritage site. As Susan said, I could find no completed ebay sales at 66, only MS 65, 2 PCGS at MS 65 went for $139 and $162. Heritage lists 5 PCGS MS 66s- went for 345 to460 in Jan and Feb of this year. Grade Coin World (Trends) Numismedia Retail Numismedia Wholesale Numismedia NGC (nmn) Numismedia PCGS (nmp) Coin Universe 65 $175 $185 $148 $130 $130 $200 66 $600 $840 $675 $600 $600 $950 67 --- $3,120 $2,400 $1,800 $1,800 $7,500 To pull a Mike (thanks for pointing that out to me Mike!) Don Report this Post to the Staff
SFDukie Pillar of the Community United States 980 Posts	Posted 04/17/2005 12:22 am OOPs! Sorry- Mike has correct numbers. Report this Post to the Staff
Mike Rest in Peace United States 2884 Posts	Posted 04/17/2005 02:38 am Don, A little more research produced the higher prices you found!!!!OOP'S on me as well!!!! Sale 250, Lot 1138 Tuesday, March 29, 2005 66 PCGS $195.50 Sale 369, Lot 658 Monday, March 28, 2005 66 PCGS $172.50 Sale 367, Lot 1444 Monday, February 28, 2005 66 PCGS $184.00 Sale 367, Lot 1445 Monday, February 28, 2005 66 PCGS $310.50 Sale 367, Lot 1446 Monday, February 28, 2005 66 PCGS $172.50 Sale 65024,Lot 23317 Sunday, February 27, 2005 66 PCGS $218.50 Sale 25013,Lot 11420 Tuesday, January 18, 2005 66 PCGS $236.90 Sale 361, Lot 2185 Monday, January 17, 2005 66 PCGS $161.00 Sale 361, Lot 2186 Monday, January 17, 2005 66 PCGS $184.00 Sale 361, Lot 2190 Monday, January 17, 2005 66 PCGS $161.00 Sale64123, Lot 23596 Saturday, December 18, 2004 66 PCGS $189.75 Sale24122, Lot 13914 Tuesday, December 14, 2004 66 PCGS $189.75 Sale 278, Lot 1323 Monday, December 13, 2004 66 PCGS $207.00 Sale64122 Lot 24260 Saturday, December 11, 2004 66 PCGS $207.00 Sale 6257 Lot 277 Friday, December 10, 2004 66 PCGS $420.00 Sale 277, Lot 6259 Friday, December 10, 2004 66 PCGS $186.30 Sale24121, Lot 11326 Tuesday, December 7, 2004 66 PCGS $207.00 Sale64114, Lot 24495 Saturday, November 27, 2004 66 PCGS $218.50 Sale24113, Lot 13667 Tuesday, November 16, 2004 66 PCGS $230.00 Sale64112, Lot 24522 Saturday, November 13, 2004 66 PCGS $218.50 Sale24112, Lot 12257 Tuesday, November 9, 2004 66 PCGS $194.35 Sale 359, Lot 1344 Monday, November 8, 2004 66 PCGS $287.50 Sale 358, Lot 7049 Saturday, November 6, 2004 66 PCGS $241.50 Sale24111, Lot 14206 Tuesday, November 2, 2004 66 PCGS $209.30 Sale24104, Lot 11922 Tuesday, October 26, 2004 66 PCGS $209.30 Sale24103, Lot 14370 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 66 PCGS $251.85 Sale24093, Lot 13949 Tuesday, September 21, 2004 66 PCGS $238.0 Sale 356, Lot 1203 Monday, September 13, 2004 66 PCGS $241.50 Sale24091, Lot 13812 Tuesday, September 7, 2004 66 PCGS $256.45 Sale 353, Lot 1140 Monday, August 23, 2004 66 PCGS $644.00 Sale 352, Lot 6588 Saturday, August 21, 2004 66 PCGS $805.00 Sale 321, Lot 1406 Monday, July 26, 2004 66 PCGS $299.00 Sale 321, Lot 1407 Monday, July 26, 2004 66 PCGS $322.00 Sale 321, Lot 1408 Monday, July 26, 2004 66 PCGS $270.25 Sale 320, Lot 6700 Wednesday, July 21, 2004 66 PCGS $364.55 Sale 320, Lot 6701 Wednesday, July 21, 2004 66 PCGS $360.00 Sale 320, Lot 6702 Wednesday, July 21, 2004 66 PCGS $276.00 Sale 320, Lot 6704 Wednesday, July 21, 2004 66 PCGS $336.00 I went back far enough to include some of the big prices that Don found! Super sleuthing again there Don!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mike [:p] Edited by Mike 04/22/2005 11:13 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Mike Rest in Peace United States 2884 Posts	Posted 04/17/2005 02:44 am Hey Grovey, I hope this helps. It seems that the price range is very very broad. All in all a popular coin in high grades. I say bid based on the best grade assessment you can make from the pictures.It looks great to me,it is a PCGS, you are saving a stiff grading fee and shipping costs for the same!I'd say your safe even at $250.00 if you like it and maybe more based on the PCGS prices we have posted for you. If it happened to upgrade to a MS67 "LOOK OUT"! The price goes through the roof! Mike Edited by Mike 04/18/2005 01:47 am Report this Post to the Staff
national dealer Pillar of the Community United States 2724 Posts	Posted 04/17/2005 08:05 am Here is the latest to hammer at Bowers. http://bowersandmerena.com/auctions...ings%2Echtml Report this Post to the Staff
zakgold Valued Member United States 382 Posts	Posted 04/17/2005 08:44 am Between Bowers & Merena, Heritage, and ebay complete austions, I find by using all of the above, you can pretty much see where the market prices are for a given coin in a given grade for a given time period. Of course the argument becomes WHY? Why is that PCGS and NGC get more for this same coin in the same grade than it were "properly" graded and raw. I reply, "Says who?" and that is where fights break out. The market sets the price and buyers need to educate themselves as much as possible on grading, eye appeal, and all of the factors that contribute to the price of a coin before they determine how much of their money they wish to part with to acquire a specimen. If you get this coin less than $150, it would appear to be a good deal. the question becomes, "Would you be happy with the purchase?" Speaking from experience, I probably paid higher prices for some of my coins because I was in a "got to have it...I want it" mode. But these "over-paid-coins" were for my collection and I m still glad I bought them. So much for that high when you acquire a new coin and when it arrives in the mail. Sometimes you have to say, "I don't care (within reason)...I just want it". Edited by zakgold 04/17/2005 2:25 pm Report this Post to the Staff
SFDukie Pillar of the Community United States 980 Posts	Posted 04/17/2005 09:40 am And grovey, keep us posted- we're on edge. Anyone, looking at Mike's list of heritage prices- that strikes me as an exceptionally wide range. It also strikes me that at least in this grade- price may have declined abit at least for this walker in this grade- am I reading too much into these prices? Don Report this Post to the Staff
catman Rest in Peace United States 954 Posts	Posted 04/17/2005 09:45 am I wouldn't try to second guess the market on a coin like this. This kind of quality will sell based on how much the buyer wants the coin not the market value of the coin. This is what causes the value of coins to go up. catman Report this Post to the Staff
grovey Valued Member United States 440 Posts	Posted 04/17/2005 11:03 am I emialed him this morning and asked if he would consider taking payments if I was the high bidder ? He said he would but would have to hold on to the item I said of course I wouldn't expect anything else So at least I have the option as long as I don't get impulsive it should be fine. Report this Post to the Staff
Mike Rest in Peace United States 2884 Posts	Posted 04/17/2005 5:02 pm Don, You picked up on a trend that I noticed as I went all the way back to 1993 on some auctions. I't seems these issues hit somthing of a "high" last year and are back on an up swing after a slump. Even more interesting, though I did not want to start a debate about TPG'S and value, in many cases NGC and even ANAC'S sold for more then PCGS! My opinion on the super high prices is the buyer was seeing something in the coin that indicated the chance that a break out would result in it grading up a notch, more than justifying the high bid. You really need to look at those particular auctions and the pictures of the coins! Mike Edited by Mike 04/18/2005 01:53 am Report this Post to the Staff
Mike Rest in Peace United States 2884 Posts	Posted 04/22/2005 11:15 pm Grovey, I highlighted the ones that sold for over $200.00! Mike Report this Post to the Staff
Tane New Member Finland 8 Posts	Posted 04/25/2005 2:16 pm quote: Originally posted by zakgold Sometimes you have to say, "I don't care (within reason)...I just want it". Thats right! It happened to me today: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...MEWN:IT&rd=1 A bit too expensive for me, but I think it is worth it. I love it allready Report this Post to the Staff
Susanlynn9 Forum Mom United States 5877 Posts	Posted 04/25/2005 5:34 pm quote: Originally posted by Tane quote: Originally posted by zakgold Sometimes you have to say, "I don't care (within reason)...I just want it". Thats right! It happened to me today: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...MEWN:IT&rd=1 A bit too expensive for me, but I think it is worth it. I love it allready Welcome to the forum! Personally, I could see paying that much for that coin. Nikolus II coinage has a lot of history since he was the last of the Romanovs and his ending was so tragic. These are the types of coins that I like for the history that they represent. Report this Post to the Staff
Tane New Member Finland 8 Posts	Posted 04/26/2005 08:26 am quote: Originally posted by Susanlynn9 Welcome to the forum! Personally, I could see paying that much for that coin. Nikolus II coinage has a lot of history since he was the last of the Romanovs and his ending was so tragic. These are the types of coins that I like for the history that they represent. Thank you very much, and thank you for my avatar too I checked the website of Holmasto (a big finnish auction-house) and saw that they sold a similar coin for 120 Euros. It isn't even much higher grade than the to-be-mine-one. Gee, I feel GOOD See: http://www.holmasto.com/showobjpic....object=14931 These coins are wonderfull, russian and finnish coins from 1894 to 1917 are best part of my collection. The history really is interesting, all the mess in Russia in those days. - 7 years of war. Alltough that was good for us, the finns, it must have been horrible. *Dreaming to get the Ruble of 1915 [:p] Edited by Tane 04/26/2005 10:00 am Report this Post to the Staff
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