Certification Of Contemporary Counterfeits

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swamperbob Pillar of the Community United States 5362 Posts	Posted 09/22/2006 5:03 pm Hello James, Thank you for taking time to answer some of our questions. For about 40 years, I have been attempting to assemble a set of all of the Contemporary Circulating Counterfeit Dollars that appear in Dr. John L. Riddell's 1845 "Monograph of the Silver Dollar, Good and Bad". These documented counterfeit coins are known to have circulated in the US before the Civil War are certainly becoming more collectable with time. Along with their more valauble Colonial counterfeit cousins (Evasion Half Cents and Farthings, Machin Mills issues and Birmingham Counterfeits of the Portrait 8R, just to name a few types) - it seems that at some point authentication of period counterfeits should be undertaken by a firm like ANACS. Do you have any thoughts on that issue? Bob Gurney aka swamperbob Edited by swamperbob 09/22/2006 5:04 pm Report this Post to the Staff

James Taylor ANACS President United States 98 Posts	Posted 09/26/2006 8:02 pm Bob, I saw this same e-mail from you yesterday afternoon as I was wading through nearly 175 e-mails that had piled up on my computer while I was out of office on Thursday and Friday attending my nephew's wedding in San Francisco. I set it aside to answer after I had gotten through all the easy ones. As you now know, I'm not quite there yet. One thing a company--ANACS, General Motors or Betty's Sewing Shoppe--doesn't want to do is confuse its customers, especially about basic things. All major grading services have an ironclad rule not to encapsulate counterfeit coins. To make exceptions is simply not worth it. I am aware that some counterfeits are more valuable and more sought after than the genuine ones. However, as I said, it is simply not worth it for a grading service to make exceptions over something as basic as this. Sorry. James Report this Post to the Staff
ziggy29 Valued Member United States 157 Posts	Posted 09/26/2006 9:09 pm I'd actually like to add a little to what James said here. Imagine a decision to go ahead and encapsulate contemporary counterfeits -- at least the ones with recognized collector value. Suddenly, the word gets out that "ANACS slabs counterfeits!" and many people, not understanding the proper context, freak out. You mean this 1893-S dollar in an ANACS holder might not be authentic? Confidence in the ANACS product could plummet where authentication is concerned. Report this Post to the Staff
swamperbob Pillar of the Community United States 5362 Posts	Posted 09/26/2006 10:47 pm James Taylor - Thank you for taking time to explain that. The reason is valid and I can certainly understand teh basic ecconomics involved, but it tends to highlight a problem in the collector community today. By that, I mean that a customer base that would be bothered ("confused") by proper attribution of circulating counterfeits seems rather naive. I personally would expect authenticators to know counterfeits every bit as well as originals and the fact that they were comfortable with both types would not bother me at all. Perhaps this indicates that there is a nitch business here for a "Counterfeit Only" certification group. Only real coins would get the "Body Bag" treatment. Report this Post to the Staff
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