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New Member
Canada
38 Posts |
Also, when great work is done.
I always shake hands at the end of the deal. And stress that it was a great time dealing with them.
I go to coin shows. And almost no one ever does that.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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rodime--
We had a secondhand store dealer who loved this haggling, so he had ridiculous prices on everything.
Result? New potential customers would see that every single item was grossly overpriced, leave, and spread the word that he was a ripoff.
Hagglers would come back, but it took about two items before they told each other that half off was the maximum selling price, and diehard hagglers could get half off of that.
Seems like a lot of work remembering what you want for stuff.
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Valued Member
Canada
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Quote: I always shake hands at the end of the deal. And stress that it was a great time dealing with them. Yes, your dealer probably likes haggling. If you also like haggling, that's a good match. If your dealer didn't like haggling, and you do ... bad match. But being nice and not haggling is a good match for EVERYTHING. I'm glad you get life at 1/2 off. Again, I stress the fact that I don't have to treat every individual I buy from as a potential crook, or as a terrible deal-maker. I treat them as business people, and if they treat me poorly, then I'll haggle. It's a different mindset. Yours is not better or worse, in general. It is worse for me, I couldn't live that way. Others can. *shrugs*
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New Member
Canada
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rodime,
Dealers don't become dealers if they hate haggling. That is the business. Buying and selling.
That's the way it works.
If you're afraid to haggle and ask for discounts, that's your way of life. Please don't try to justify it as a "good" way of doing business.
But if you like your way, that's alright.
And by the way, I have dealt with many dealers. It is always the same. Sometimes I meet new ones. The nice ones give discounts right away without even asking... and without even paying retail on any of the pieces. That is a TRULY good dealer. And I surely remember those ones...
A good dealer that makes a customer pay retail to develop a trusting and loyal relationship... is not a good dealer. You technically paid for that relationship... hardly good to me.
Note: If you want a real good and nice dealer, go to coin shows and go to the inexperienced dealers who are there during retirement and just to have fun. They are the best ones... BY FAR.
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New Member
Canada
38 Posts |
The one dealer was selling dimes so cheap, I could have bought them and sold them for the silver for a profit. I talked to another dealer who buy them for silver...
I didn't buy them up. I bought what I needed and left them for others to enjoy the great price he was offering. Of course, I don't need to haggle. The guy was there for fun and he was making his share of money.
I must repeat... a dealer who makes you pay retail at ANY point... is a bad one.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
535 Posts |
"Expect" a discount? - No. "Ask" for a discount? - Yes, anything over about $3.
I've never haggled on anything until I got started going to coin shows.
After the first few times of me buying a few coins and having the dealer offer me a discount without me asking, I realized that it would probably be okay.
I never buy one coin, I always buy two to three (or more) at a time. I always offer about 15% less than the total. Sometimes they accept, sometimes they counter offer.
I'm always polite and respectful. They know I'm interested in the coins, because I've probably been sitting there looking through their box for 1/2 hour. I never say anything like "I can get them over here for ...."
I never ask "Whats the best you can do on this?" I always make an offer. I've only done it a few times, but I will walk away if they won't come down to what I think the value is.
It was very uncomfortable for me at first, but I've really gotten very used to it, so now I've gotten in the habit of doing it anytime I'm buying something from an individual.
As a matter of fact, I've learned that you can also do it in retail stores. I was in Hobby Lobby a few months ago. They had some Dansco albums on clearance marked down from $30 to $14. They had a few that I needed, but there were a few that were not marked down that I also needed. I picked up two from the clearance bin and one from the regularly priced bin. I asked for a manager and explained that I wanted to buy all three, but only two were marked down. I asked if he could mark down the third if I bought the other two. He agreed!
It really is true - everythings negotiable.
Regardless of what happens, though, I am always polite, respectful and thank them for their time.
Edited by karrlot 03/15/2011 07:17 am
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Rest in Peace
United States
9104 Posts |
Quote: Note: If you want a real good and nice dealer, go to coin shows and go to the inexperienced dealers who are there during retirement and just to have fun. They are the best ones... BY FAR. They can afford to be. I knew a nice retired guy who sold baseball cards. He could let a $20 card go for $15, because he got it out of a nickel pack of gum. He figured if he made $100 in sales over a weekend, that was the difference between eating steak and hamburger. The dealer who is trying to make a living looks at $100 for a weekend as less than minimum wage, and realizes the drive costs 50¢ a mile round trip. The retiree figures he would be going to the show for fun, so it didn't cost to drive. Another dealer (see inexperienced) charged $18 for a set of cards that cost $16.50 for the cards, plus a box. Knowing it took three hours to sort out a set from a random case, I asked how he figured his time. "Oh, I don't figure anything for that." Yet the guys trying to make a living have to compete with that nonsense.
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New Member
Canada
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karlott,
Great observation. You're right that it is not easy the first time. Nothing is easy the first time. Especially with social skills. Going to interviews. Asking a girl out. Asking for a raise... and now asking for discounts.
They are social skills we should all have. They are efficient and valuable, otherwise...
You will not often get interviews. Never date a girl. Probably not get many raises. And pay a whole lot for coins.
Sure you can sit around and wait, and hope someone nice enough will do it for you. But really, lots of people are nice. If a dealer doesn't give you discounts automatic, it doesn't imply that he isn't. Just means your dumb for paying retail in the first place. Dealer should not feel guilty for people who are afraid to ask for discounts. I bet they start giving discounts after while because they feel bad after ripping you off so many times. And by giving you discounts, just MAYBE you will start asking for them.
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Valued Member
Canada
276 Posts |
Quote: Just means your dumb for paying retail in the first place I view that as a terrible attitude. Although I appreciate my money, I don't want to be weighed down with the feeling that I am surrounded by stupid people. I adjust my world view, and live accordingly. I am happy to do so. You many not agree with me, and I certainly disagree with you ... but a happy life lived well is worth more than money. Since I cannot buy happiness or peace of mind, but value it more than money, money is a small price to pay for something that has no price tag. I guess it is all about priorities. Your priority is to get money, so that you can live well. My priority is to simply live well.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3184 Posts |
haggling is expected. Whether or not the dealer will lower the price is up to them.
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Rest in Peace
United States
9104 Posts |
We sold a lot to other dealers at shows. They'd pull out a stack they were interested in, and we'd give them discounts when we could. Often, we had to have the marked price and tell them so.
If anyone ever refused to pay the marked price, it happened so infrequently that I don't remember it. Keepin mind, these were people buying to resell.
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