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Using New Metals In Coins Could Impact Counterfeiting?

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Fri, 2011-03-04 10:54 AM
By: Jacob Goodwin

Because the metals that make up pennies and nickels are now worth more on the commodities market than the actual face value of those coins, the U.S. Government is concerned that some speculators might buy large quantities of these coins to profit from their metal value.

As a result, the U.S. Congress passed the Coin Modernization, Oversight, and Continuity Act of 2010, which authorizes the Secretary of the Treasury to launch a research program to examine a wide variety of possible new metallic materials that could be used to manufacture U.S. coins, as well as a variety of new production technologies.

The U.S. Mint, which has been delegated the authority to conduct this research, is now trying to get its arms around all the possible factors that should be taken into account as part of this broad examination. Among the factors that it will consider are the impact that a change in metals might have on armored-car operators, public transit agencies, risks to public safety and vulnerability to counterfeiting, according to a notice published by the U.S. Mint in the Federal Register on March 4. The study will also look at "the effect on vending machines and commercial coin processing equipment and making certain, to the greatest degree practicable, that any new coins work without interruption in existing coin acceptance equipment with modification...," the notice explains.

The value of the metal content of one-cent and five-cent coins has exceeded their face value, compelling the U.S. Mint to implement regulations to protect them from arbitrage, the notice says.

The public is invited to submit its comments on the possibility of using new metals to manufacture U.S. coins by sending an e-mail to coinmaterials@usmint.treas.gov by April 4.

Further information is available from Jean Gentry, deputy chief counsel of the U.S. Mint, at 202-354-7359.
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The Half Cent was eliminated in 1857 when it had more buying power than a dime today. Real simple solution: instead of seeing if we can make coins that would embarrass a third world country, eliminate anything smaller than a quarter. It would take a tremendous increase in copper and nickel to make them unprofitable.
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It is a lot harder to forge coins that are made from clad metals, or are bi metallic. The costs to the forgers are just too high, except for the numismatic market. We collectors have to remain on our guard, but I think that the mints around the World do not have to worry too much.

Clad or bi metallic coins for circulation can be made out of the cheapest metals and alloys, e.g. zinc or steel. These days, coins are fiat money, just like notes. Coins could be even made from plastics, as many notes already are.
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Because the metals that make up pennies and nickels are now worth more on the commodities market than the actual face value of those coins,

Now? How about for about for the last five or six years.


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As a result, the U.S. Congress passed the Coin Modernization, Oversight, and Continuity Act of 2010, which authorizes the Secretary of the Treasury to launch a research program to examine a wide variety of possible new metallic materials that could be used to manufacture U.S. coins, as well as a variety of new production technologies.

Another waste of legislative time considering the Mint has had the authority to do that for ages. They could run test or experiments all they wanted, but couldn't impliment the changes without Congressional approval. Now with this new law they can run tests and experiments all they want, but can't impliment any changes without Congressional approval. A new law that gives them permission to do what they've been able to do all along.
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The Half Cent was eliminated in 1857 when it had more buying power than a dime today. Real simple solution: instead of seeing if we can make coins that would embarrass a third world country, eliminate anything smaller than a quarter. It would take a tremendous increase in copper and nickel to make them unprofitable.
For the most part I agree. I have no problem with the dime remaining, but understand the logic of eliminating it as well.

As I have always said, electronic transactions will remain accurate to the cent. This is for those that falsely believe everything will always be rounded up, so do not even go there.
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