This subject is really a good topic. I say that since I go to about 2 to 4 coin shows a Month and there are many, many dealers that sell cleaned coins. And some are really cleaned excessively and some just a minor cleaning to probably remove gum, tape, etc. Such coins in 2x2's or other flips are seldom ever noted as cleaned. I've only seen a few dealers that note that on a 2x2 or other flip. Most wait to see if you notice a cleaned coin and if you do, I'm always shocked when that dealer looks at me as if "I really didn't notice that" and yet the coin looks like it was just went over with a belt sander. In many instances I've had dealers try telling me OH, that is just a weak strike. I could only imagine how many hew collectors leave coin shows or coin stores with cleaned coins and don't know. One rather famous coin store in my area is famous for cleaned coins and yet they still have many customerss. And they never tell anyone that a coin was cleaned. Again, though why should they? The history of a coin is actually not the responsibility of a dealer. Sad but true.
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The average age in our group is 64 including 8 members in there 20'S and 4 members 30-50.
Coin Chaser: Here is an odd note about ages. At all the coin shows I go to I too see almost all are in their elderly age groups. Yet at a coin show last Sunday I think I saw about 20% to 30% of even the dealers in their early 30's or even 20's. One dealer I was talking to I think was not much more than in his teens or just really look young. For the first time in a long time I saw at least 10 or more kids, 20 or more females and too, a sort of shortage of us old people. I wonder if things are changing?