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Dilemas, Dilemas..how To React?

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 Posted 03/29/2011  12:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Playing the Devil's advocate...aren't we all giving information that could help others make money ? I tell my friends what to look for. You offered to pay half of what they're worth, why not full value ? What they own or have really should have no bearing at all. Forget about it but just remember what kind of friend he is and treat him accordingly.
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 Posted 03/29/2011  12:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I was the one that got him hired in under my supervision. (I was a team leader then. I stepped down so he could take my place.) We have hung out outside of work. Shooting guns, fishing, drinking. Have known each other for about five years.


Okay then.... the guy is a jerk..... (respond by slashing his tires).
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 Posted 03/29/2011  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaymon74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Kenkat, Actually, if you knew me, I let everyone know what silver value is these days. It's like a public announcement with me!

I know it doesn't sound like much (half melt) but it only cost her face value. It would be a quick profit for them. I also said "some" not all. The real point is, he agreed and went back on it.

Quarters is not all they've gotten by the way. She also bought at face value a $100.00 silver certificate and silver dollars. I never asked to purchase those. I mainly just want quarters to fill holes. If they were able to get say 20 silver dollars, then yeah, who wouldn't be interested in that?!
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 Posted 03/29/2011  1:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaymon74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll check back on this thread after work tonight. I have to go. Thanks for all the replies so far. I guess maybe I just needed to vent and get some clarity on the situation. I have no problem helping people out. Don't get me wrong. I just feel that a deal was a deal. I think anyone would be upset over it. No, I will not slash his tires. I'm still paying of my own!
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 Posted 03/29/2011  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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zeewool, I was the one that got him hired in under my supervision. (I was a team leader then. I stepped down so he could take my place.) We have hung out outside of work. Shooting guns, fishing, drinking. Have known each other for about five years.

OK so he is well off. So what. Those things your talking about are just coins. So he gets richer. Again, so what? As I said, your not going to find a friend in a pile of coins.
I well know how you must feel right now but in the future, as you get old, you'll see that frieds, neighbors, relatives are so far most valuable then anything in coins.
Not to really make this into a sob story but not long ago I was diagnosed with Stage 4 Cancer. After many operations, chemo, etc. I was sent home with tubes and bags hanging out of me.
Coins ment absollutely nothing at that time. Friends, neirbors and relatives took care fo me for almost a year. Coins really ment nothing at that time.
Which is why I say just drop that situation and move on. Help him with even more info on coins. Again, you have nothing to loose.
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 Posted 03/29/2011  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carmykle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As I always say...no good deed goes unpunished. You alerting him that there was money to be made was the tip off. Am I safe to presume you stepped down to step up to another position?
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 Posted 03/29/2011  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I can let it go I suppose.


That's what I would do. It's not worth it and life's too short.


(It's time to dance!)
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 Posted 03/29/2011  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add w1a9c8k5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have only read the OP post and I will say this; Your friend isn't a good friend. Plain and simple. How else can you explain it?
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 Posted 03/29/2011  4:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In my short time collecting, I've seen many people as soon as they get near a 90% coin go from being nice friendly people to this:

"My preciousssss"
Dilemas,-Dilemas..how-To-React?
(pretend I photoshopped out the ring and replaced it with a silver coin)

The biggest example of this was an estate sale I was at last weekend. I hoped to snag some silver at a good price but I didn't get there early enough to have a shot at purchasing them. Instead I got there to see two 40-50 yo men arguing over who had the right to buy the coins (wasn't an auction but first come first serve). It was approximately 20-30 silver halves and dollars basically selling for like $30, maybe $40 tops. The arguing basically turned to assault with one man getting into the others face and poking him in they chest while they both threaten to go at it all while with 25 people watching and relatives of the deceased there. This was my first experience at an estate sale. For all I know both those nuts might be on this board.

Anyway, my point is this. Sometimes it just takes something of unique value for someone to get 'that' look in their eye. Separating that coin from them is like separating a mother bear from her cub. As for Jaymon it sounds like he's trying to get the ring away from Gollum. To me it just isn't worth it. If something like a coin causes them to get all weird, renege on their their deals, etc, it just isn't worth it. Maybe try to still be friends, but never talk about coins any more with them.

It's a shame that you went out of your way to help them out and it'd be a nice if a 'friend' would scratch your back a little bit for scratching his, but oh well. Him and his wife got that look in their eye and there's nothing you can do now. You've created a monster.
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 Posted 03/29/2011  4:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bizybackson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Trent, you nailed it on the head: a monster was created. That and the Gollum pic is thumbs up!
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03/29/2011 4:13 pm
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 Posted 03/29/2011  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RealPeso to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OP:

Yes, it sucks and I feel for you. I had a good friend that worked as a teller once and I told him what silver coins were going for (melt price) and that he should go to a coin dealer or show to get the most money for the coins he would find. He chose to sell them to me at 25% - 30% less than melt so we would both get a good deal.

On the other hand I've had friends that don't know anything about coins and I will offer them full melt price and they get this look on their face like their junk silver is woth a lot more and I am trying to rip them off.

Everyone looks at it a different way, I guess.
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03/29/2011 8:14 pm
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 Posted 03/29/2011  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stormdog123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think your friend is a jerk.

Not because he is refusing to honor your deal.

But because he told you about finding the silver. If he wanted to keep the coins fine, he should have said nothing to you.

It is because he is "rubbing your face in it", he is a jerk.
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There is nothing worse than greed. It will be the downfall of anyone who goes down that path eventually. The best thing he could do is apologize to you. He was thinking of himself. Friendships are worth more than all the $ in the world.
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 Posted 03/30/2011  01:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaymon74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I read the post now that I'm home. I decided not to mention it anymore with him. I'll still be friends. I do have to deal with him daily.

The other thing is this. I have never worked at a bank. How is it that she would have known the quarters were silver when they were customer wrapped? Do they put customer wrapped coins in the till? I can see it happening in that way. I've never been to this bank, so I don't know if they have a change counter or not. It would seem strange to me that the tellers would go through the bags. Any thoughts on that?

To answer a previous question. No, I didn't step down to take a higher position. I didn't feel the headache was worth the pay. (or visa versa)

just carl, I'm so sorry to here of your Stage 4 Cancer. I can understand that coins meant nothing to you at that time. How could it? I sincerely hope that part of life is past you and you have a healthy, happy life for the future. I would like to clarify to not just you, but everyone reading this. Coins are not my life. I have God, my kids, and my wife that I put before anything or anyone.

So what am I upset about? It's the principle. Plain and simple. We made a deal and he back-pedaled with it. I agree, it's greed. I just have a problem with that. No, it's not worth losing a friend over. I'll forgive him for it, and I'll know better next time.

trent, Your last sentence is what I had in mind the whole time. I scratch his back, he scratch mine. I'm sure she would eventually learn what to look for, (if the other tellers let her in on it), but I gave her a head start. It just seemed fair to me (and him at the time) that I get something in return for that kind of insider information. When it was first discussed, I told him how difficult it was to find pre-64 quarters in circulation. I told him how out of $500.00 in quarters, I only found ONE! I explained how her being in that position, she has a lot better odds finding them. I wasn't concerned for the one or two here and there. It was only if she came across a whole lot of them. Everyone was in agreement that I could purchase some then. He mentioned that she was able to get $20.00 worth and then let me down with that. With what they've gotten so far (thanks to my information), that was some kind of gratitude. Am I right? It wasn't just quarters that I gave her a list of. That's just what I was interested in.

I'm done with the whole ordeal. If he finds it in his heart to make it right, then good for him. I'll not bring it up again to him or her. In the mean time, I'll find it in mine to forgive.

Thanks for hearing me out friends.
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03/30/2011 01:10 am
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Hey Jaymon, a few words of support for you: I hear ya, man, it sucks be sucker punched like that. Good for you, because one of you has gotta man up, and it's better you than him, as you'd be the better and bigger person in the long run, if it's any consolation. He might have your quarters now, but you know what, I find that it evens out in the end, you sow positive actions and good will in the world, you will get some good returns, sow discord, jerk people around, and this is an absolute truth: what goes around DOES eventually come around. As is "no good deed goes unpunished!" Just wish them well and go on your merry way.
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