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Matrix1980 Valued Member Canada 212 Posts	Posted 04/12/2011 08:46 am Question I received: Why are you so focused on the 36 dots and 1921 halves? Yes you are absolutely correct I just enjoy these coins very much. And I find that compared to the U.S we don't talk much about our prized coins here in Canada say like the 1804 U.S dollar (15 known), 1894-S dime (9 known) or the 1913 liberty head nickel (5 known). I like what they do over there once a year or maybe twice they find a way to assemble some of these for display at the major coins shows and this draws a lot of people to come and see them on display. I think it could help the Canadian market as a whole. Say all the 36 dots in the same place and time! I find there is more frustration towards these coins than anything instead of using them as tools to promote the entire Canadian coin series in a positive way. Seems logical to me to use these type of coins for the good of the whole hobby. In the U.S when people talk about the ultra rare coins all collectors get involved here in Canada people just get upset and want to avoid the subject. If you want a positive coin market these coins must be involved much more. Hey a book about these coins would put us on the map with a lot of U.S coin collectors. No need for 3 - 4 books just one that talks all about our rarest coins and there history (ex: 1670 15 sol, 1916C sovereign, 36 dots, 2000P quarters, 1921 5 cents and 50 cents, 1859 brass penny.....you get the picture) . This is the way to get attention on our selves. I mean look at the U.S they have books for each one of there rarest coins some times multiple books and people buy them up like crazy. They know how to promote there passion for the hobby. We lack that in Canada. I mean there are so many people here that know so much why not put some heads together and get a book done? Edited by Matrix1980 04/12/2011 08:49 am Report this Post to the Staff

R2bR2c Valued Member Canada 153 Posts	Posted 04/12/2011 09:15 am Some would argue that the 36 dots aren't real coins, but rather back-door jobs done for an individual and covertly passed along. There are others that have differing thoughts about whether there really are 1859 brass cents ... or were they just poor QC'd or alloyed planchets? I think that the dots have been around long enough and are enough of a mystery to resurrect some of the old stories with a display. I also believe that there were no intentional brass cents made; only accidents. A display of the coins you suggest would be interesting, since not everyone can visit Ottawa to see most of them. The US rarities are true rarities indeed and were made with the intention of being circulated, while some of the Canadians weren't. They are really apples and oranges. Report this Post to the Staff
Matrix1980 Valued Member Canada 212 Posts	Posted 04/12/2011 09:48 am R2bR2c: You see I did not know about the brass coins at all. Thanks. As far as U.S coins they are almost all bask door jobs: 1913 liberty head 5 cents (inside job at night), 1894-S dime (24 minted only 9 known. people are not sure about this one I know the story well but very long to explain), 1804 dollars where made in 1834 for presentation sets for Asia and other nations (there are 3 types all made in different years with different printing plates. type 1 8 exist, type 2 only 1 exists and type 3 6 exist) and a lot more are inside jobs I would say at least 50% of rare U.S coins where back door jobs. It is well known in the states but people don't care about that they just want to own the coins. By the way all these back door jobs could any day be confiscated by the C.I.A since it is illegal to own them. That is what they did with the famous 1933 20$ gold pieces. Only 1 is allowed to be owned and sold for 7.5$ million about 8 -9 years ago. We are actually in Canada much better off. In the U.S back door jobs make for good stories and people love stories attached to coins. We are way to hard on our coins over here and for nothing. The U.S knows how to use these stories to promote there coins and make them into legends and dreams for all. Edited by Matrix1980 04/12/2011 10:24 am Report this Post to the Staff
Matrix1980 Valued Member Canada 212 Posts	Posted 04/12/2011 09:55 am Here are some youtube videos you may like from sales of the 1804 dollar, 1913 liberty head nickel and the 1933 20$ gold piece: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqsokg4G1o0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jys6XlwA_Ps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2EsjvIj7hM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkX_iSRWsG8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sciv...ture=related I have a bunch more for old cents and others if you want I can post them? Edited by Matrix1980 04/12/2011 10:12 am Report this Post to the Staff
Matrix1980 Valued Member Canada 212 Posts	Posted 04/12/2011 09:59 am Here are videos of the 1787 Brasher Doubloon (first ever U.S gold coin ever made), 1794 U.S dollar (now the world record holder for most expensive coin ever sold....not the most expensive coin known that is the 1849 Double Eagle worth a estimated 25$ million dollars with the only known example in a U.S museum) and the famous large cent collection of Dan Holmes (this is a really nice collection): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Qap...ture=related http://www.coinlink.com/News/us-coi...lver-dollar/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuOo...ture=related Edited by Matrix1980 04/12/2011 10:13 am Report this Post to the Staff
Matrix1980 Valued Member Canada 212 Posts	Posted 04/12/2011 10:18 am I know it is U.S coins but this stuff will keep you busy for at least a year or more. I know I love reading about coins and if you like it to these books are for you. Some are quite cheap and some are a 100$ but for a 100$ you have at least a months worth of reading so to me that's a good deal. 100 Greatest U.S coins 3rd edition (the 4th edition should be out this year because every 4 years the new one comes out); 100 Greatest American Currency Notes; Double Eagle (full story of the 1933 20$ gold piece and story that involves the Egyptian king, the C.I.A and many other people); Million Dollar Nickels (1913 liberty head nickels); The 1894-S Dime, A mystery Unraveled; The rare silver dollars dated 1804 and the exciting adventures of Edmund Roberts (Almost like the movie Indiana Jones and this is a big book); American coin treasures and hoards (almost like the movie The Goonies a lot of good finds again a big book. Only place to find one is on Amazon because it is a rare book); and The Harry W. Bass, Jr Museum Sylloge (all about the only man to ever own every single U.S coin and his famous gold coin collection). Edited by Matrix1980 04/12/2011 10:28 am Report this Post to the Staff
R2bR2c Valued Member Canada 153 Posts	Posted 04/12/2011 11:41 am I have, or have read, most of them. I'm well acquainted with US coinage. Report this Post to the Staff
Matrix1980 Valued Member Canada 212 Posts	Posted 04/12/2011 1:06 pm R2bR2c: I almost finished them all also 2 left. So far the one about the 1913 nickels is my favorite with the 2nd one been the one on the 1933 20$ double eagle. Do you know of any other books that are good to read. We seem to only have the one called coinman to Canadians...was a good book but not enough to busy for a while. Report this Post to the Staff
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