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Message Sent To C&p For Help With ICCS Hard Slab

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 Posted 05/21/2011  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Matrix1980 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SPP-Ottawa:

''Lastly, learn to accept constructive criticism. Not every opposing opinion on this (and other) coin forums are personal attacks''.

On that note you are very right and I am trying slowly to do so.
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 Posted 05/21/2011  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, in writing and posting my last reply, there has been some housecleaning going on here. I apologize to the general forum members if my previous series of posts seem completely out of context. They were each specific responses to intervening posts. I think you get the general point of the conversation though.

Enough about coin politics. We have important numismatic issues to discuss. As you were....
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 Posted 05/21/2011  6:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Matrix1980 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SPP-Ottawa:

I agree there are better things to talk about and also apologize for ANY bad vibes!!
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 Posted 05/21/2011  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The minting processes in both countries are a tad different. I suspect there would be a slight variation in grading from a U.S. perspective or standard.
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 Posted 06/03/2011  08:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yoda to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I had a conversation with Michael Walsh back in the late 1990's about different types of slabs, and distinctly remember that Michael mentioned that he and a group of other dealers had offered to provide ICCS with all of the start up costs associated with switching to hard slabs, including the slabs and machine, yet ICCS declined. My recollection was that ICCS just wasn't interested in change.
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 Posted 06/04/2011  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1cent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ICCS has no reason to change, as mentioned. If you want a solid, secure slab issued by a professional
company that stands behind their product, then PCGS is your company. I like the CCCS hard slabs too, but
they make lots of grading/attribution mistakes.
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 Posted 06/13/2011  2:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerry to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The only way ICCS will respond is to sue them. When the Company can't hide behind behind the disclaimer" this is only an opinion" when they are the defacto experts is an interesting defence but probably would not be accepted in court. When this smokescreen is diffused then they or their group will have to step up to the plate and redo the whole process including the holder. As no one has sued anyone in Canadian numismatics for things like what Marc Varette did there is a shadow cast over the whole industry that lingers to this day.

Pcgs has already addressed things like conflict-of-interest and people tampering with their holders...ICCS has done nothing because no-one forces them to...!
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What did he do? (Marc)
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Have heard from dealers the rumors (I assume that someone has determined they are more than that but have seen nothing in writing) that coins sold in ICCS holders were not the original coins in those holders.
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