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Well, PCGS shipped our Hot Springs P puck out today. Got the first strike designation and it got a SP69 grade. I can't wait to get it in my hot little hands.
Anyone else waiting on theirs to come back?
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I haven't sent any of my 21 pucks in. I want to for the soel reason of MAYBE I have that great one, but then again I don't want to fork over $$$$$to PCGS. How much would it end up costing getting lets say 18-20 pucks graded?
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The OP was talking about the Hot Springs P puck....I seriously doubt you have 18-20 of those
..and grading would be just around a grand
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I have all the 2010's not just the hot springs. $1000!? I better post pictures here before I commit to that.
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You are talking about the first set, the bullion shiney ones. I am talking about the P mint marked satin proofs they just started releasing.
Anyhow, 30 for the normal grading, 20 for the oversized holder, 8 handling fee.That would be per coin. You cant get a first strike designation on yours, so no charge there. Those costs are per coin. Then add 21.95 return shipping to the total.
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You are talking about the first set, the bullion shiney ones. I am talking about the P mint marked satin proofs they just started releasing.
Anyhow, 30 for the normal grading, 20 for the oversized holder, 8 handling fee.That would be per coin. You cant get a first strike designation on yours, so no charge there. Those costs are per coin. Then add 21.95 return shipping to the total. Just some points: ...The P Mint marked coins are not proofs..they are MS coins that were blasted with ceramic dust for their matte/satin finish (PCGS designating "SP" means specimen) NGC grading: $14 (modern) + $25 oversized holder + $8 handling (per order not per coin)+ shipping (cost depends on value of coins) PCGS: $14 (modern) + $20 (oversized holder) + $8 handling per order + shipping (cost depends on coin value) ALL 2010 BULLION (not P mint marked) pucks are still eligible for PCGS First Strike. THERE IS NO CUTOFF DATE. (add $18/coin). FS for the P pucks IS date dependent (6/18 is the Yellowstone cutoff date, HS is toast) |
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The only reason I would get mine graded would be to flip it to somebody else for way more than it is worth. I think I'll pass.
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Well, Modern if you want to wait a month for it to come back. And the operator at PCGS told me it was 30 days from date of issue to get first strike. Regardless, here it is. Got it today:  |
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I thought as long as you provided documentation - bill of sale and its within 30 days of release date you can get the First Strike Designation.
Smoker nice coin, Can you tell why they knocked you down a point. I think they should add a description of grading. At least NGC Doesn't ? PCGS
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I thought as long as you provided documentation - bill of sale and its within 30 days of release date you can get the First Strike Designation. Two different issues....bullion pucks and P pucks Bullion pucks...NO First Strike cut off date P pucks bought from the Mint: As the above poster said the cutoff date is usually 30 days from issue date but it is sometimes 30 days from the 1st known shipping date if there have been delays with getting the coins out of the Mint. Hot Springs was June 4th (released April 28th) Yellowstone is June 18th (released May 17th) PCGS: Coins must be shipped by the cutoff date or sent in the original UNOPENED Mint shipping box. They will not accept a dated receipt unless it is inside the unopened box. NGC: Coins must ARRIVE at NGC by the cutoff date. Same deal with unopened packages. |
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Can you tell why they knocked you down a point. I think they should add a description of grading. At least NGC Doesn't ? PCGS Man..that would be fantastic if they provided that info but, alas, no service does. They will "details" grade your coin (formerly known as body bagging) because of problems with the coin like: cleaned, altered surface, artificial toning damaged etc. Considering what it costs to grade these coins I think an explanation should be expected on all non-70 coins...great idea! |
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.The P Mint marked coins are not proofs..they are MS coins that were blasted with ceramic dust for their matte/satin finish (PCGS designating "SP" means specimen) Are the coins blasted or the dies? I would expect it to be the dies. You blast the dies you give it a matte/satin finish which it then imparts on all the coins it strikes until the finish on the dies wears. At that point you could possibly blast the dies again. If you blast the coin then you have to blast each individual coin. That doesn't sound practical. Also it would, in my opinion, mean the coin has had its surfaces damaged by post mint alteration. |
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From Coin World: Unlike the bullion version, the Uncirculated numismatic version of the 5-ounce silver coin receives a post-strike treatment resulting in a finish similar to what the U.S. Mint produces for 3-inch bronze medals.
The "vapor blasting" finish is applied over the entire surface of both the obverse and reverse.
"The machine uses a water vapor and ceramic media mix," according to Mint spokesman Michael White. "It is similar to sand blasting, but instead of using dry compressed air [propelled at high speed], it uses a compressed wet vapor. The finish is applied to the coin after striking and not to the die. This will provide a consistent coin-to-coin finish." |
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Pillar of the Community
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does the first stirke even really matter with the entire 33k or 27k being sturck within a few days?
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Not sure what they saw to knock it to a 69. I found absolutely nothing wrong with it before I sent it. And I was looking hard. The Yellowstone is at PCGS now and we will see how that one goes. Again, I saw nothing wrong with it. And I agree. A simple there is a nick on the obverse rim at 3 oc clock or the like would be nice.
And has anyone seen a 70 for these guys yet?
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Smokeriderdon, without a pic of the obverse it's hard to tell. Also the slightest / smallest of scratches will knock it down. Foxwoods, I had raised the question on another forum about the amount of vapor blasting applied to these coins (no one answered). On my Yellowstone there is excessive amount of the finish as compared to HS and viewing of online pics of other YS that folks have posted. Based of what I am seeing out there from what folks are posting there looks to be quite a few variations on the mint versions of 5 oz floating around with Machine Doubling being one of them.
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