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Could This Be An 1856?

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 Posted 06/13/2011  11:37 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mrfishers3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
New here, but I've been collecting for about 5 years. Came across this flying eagle last year, immediately thought that it could be an 1856 but never really took much action(bogged down with school). But now that I have some time I've been looking at it again. I'm trying to decide if it's worth the money to send it to PCGS and get it checked out, so what do you make of it?



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 Posted 06/13/2011  12:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know if PCGS would actually slab it since it would be only a guess on date unless there is more visible in hand than there are in the pictures. I am not very familiar with this series but if there are some kind of die markers that can be seen to tell the difference between dates then it may be possible they will say it is an 1856 but if there isn't I think chances are slim that it will come back in anything but a body bag
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 Posted 06/13/2011  12:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidZerbato to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldn't waste your money. To me, its nearly impossible to discern a date, the last digit could be just as easily an "8." THere are some die characteristics, but they will be nearly impossible to discern to the condition.
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 Posted 06/13/2011  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrfishers3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say that the supposed 6 is more visible in person when you look at an angle, I'll see if I can get some pictures
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to this here community.

I can't even see the 185, let alone the last number. But I sure hope it is!
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 Posted 06/13/2011  3:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rachums107 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
can we see the reverse? please?
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Almost so bad it's hard to tell it was ever a coin.
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That's going to be really tough to confirm or deny--because how do you scrutinize design from corrosion?*
If your coin had stronger legends, it might be possible to tell, since the lettering styles differ from 1856 to 1857-8.
For future reference, here are some differences between 1856 and 1857-8 LL. It's also a good way to tell altered 1858 LL FEs.

1. Serifs on the E and F are strongly flared and touch the top strokes of both letters.
2. The inside of the O in OF is noticeably rectangular; the O for 1857-8 is more oval.
3. The bottom point of the 1856 M is bulbous; the 57-8 M tapers sharply.

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*You could try sending it to Rick Snow, but there might not be enough detail for him as well.

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 Posted 06/13/2011  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrfishers3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the reverse, even worse than the obverse, taking a close look at the 'E', it's the least worn part but may be to worn to discern
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 Posted 06/13/2011  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrfishers3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A closer look at the 'E', not sure what to make of it

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I can't even see the 185, let alone the last number. But I sure hope it is!


You blind? It's in big red numerals!
ROFL
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I'd send it in. I don't know that it is, but what the heck, can't hurt!
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 Posted 06/13/2011  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
would a genuine 56 be worth more than the slobbing fee?
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As long as it was certified to be an 1856, I would think so, other AG pieces have sold for a few to several thousand. Even though this is in such horrible shape, I think someone would probably pay a decent amount just to say they have one
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thing about it is, it is a problem coin with the corrosion so it would never grade and I really have any doubts it would ever make a genuine slab in this condition
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You need a bigger microscope.

I think the E looks like the 56, but that and $4 will get you a cup of coffee at the Staw-place.
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