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Valued Member
United States
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I don't know if "hoarding" is the right word. Yes, I separate and save pre-1982 copper cents I get in change. So far a have a small "tupperware" container of copper cents. I don't go to the bank to get boxes of pennies to sort.
I don't see any reason to save nickels. Right now the zinc in a nickel is worth about $0.05. I don't see a reason to keep a coin where the PM value is the same as the face value. I can see the value to keeping a penny with a PM value that is 250% the face value.
Edited by JSH 12/11/2011 11:14 pm
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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@JSH-there is no zinc in a nickel. A nickel is comprised of 25% nickel and 75% copper
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United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: I don't see a reason to keep a coin where the PM value is the same as the face value. At one time, just about all coins had face and metal values that were close to the same and that includes such notables as the gorgeous $20 gold double eagle. The HOPE is that at some point the metal value will become greater than the face value. We are already seeing that with pennies, although it is not legal to melt them down now. That too could change at some point but I am not betting on it.
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Valued Member
United States
410 Posts |
I was confusing current pennies with nickels. That doesn't change my basic argument. I suppose it is much easier to get nickels than to sort bags of pennies to find the copper cents.
The other thing that most people don't seem to factor in is the realistic price you will get for a nickel as scrap metal. If you take the spot price of pure nickel and spot price of pure copper, the metal in a nickel is worth $0.05. However, a nickel isn't pure, it is an alloy. You will only get spot prices if you melt the nickel and refine it into pure base metals. As a coin, it is scrap mixed metals.
I work in a brass, bronze, and aluminum foundry. We pour tons of metal a day and produce quite a bit of scrap. When we sell the scrap back to the metal recycler we get a fraction of the price we pay for the ingot that comes into the building on pallets.
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Valued Member
United States
362 Posts |
I dont know if hoarding is the appropriate term...
If I see a copper penny I usually try to grab it, and I have a place where I keep them... but I dont go out of my way for them. I probably only have like 60-70. and a couple of them are wheats.... but thats about it
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Valued Member
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
684 Posts |
I pull pre 1982 out of pocket, just because I collect coins. Four years ago I got an Indian cent in change at some place in wisconsin. Wife thinks I'm batty because of the boxes of 5Cs in the office.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: Wife thinks I'm batty because of the boxes of 5Cs in the office. No doubt. I think that most wives think that their coin collecting husbands are a little batty. The good news is that collecting coins is better than a lot of other things that we could be doing with our time.  Quote: define hoarding In my experience, this word is used in a pejorative context against those who have prepared for disaster by those who have not. Typical "hoarders" are those who have "more than their fair share" of anything truly useful, such as food or fuel.
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Valued Member
United States
257 Posts |
I think the real money maker is in the churn. Who cares when the law to melt lifts? Buy at 1c and resell at 1.5c+? Churn that over and over!
It's rare where you can get 50%+ on your dollar anywhere.
Easier said than done though. =)
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Valued Member
United States
297 Posts |
I have been pulling copper pennies out of loose change since 1990. I have just started to pick up a box of pennies once every month or so to build my collection.
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Valued Member
United States
321 Posts |
If I see them I'll push them aside but I'm not searching rolls or bags or anything. Don't have the time.
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Valued Member
United States
318 Posts |
Purchasing power is an easy way to look at it.
Gold and silver have kept their purchasing power across history. Let's say that copper does as well.
It takes ~150 copper pennies to make a pound, and a pound of copper is today closed at $3.43 / lb. Which interestingly enough is almost exactly the national average price for a Big Mac. Google "Big Mac Index" for more.
Let's say the price of copper (in dollars) doubles, or goes up ten-fold. Presumably the price (in dollars) of everything will go up by the same ratio.
So, is it worth it to you to keep six rolls of pennies around so you and a friend can eat one bare-minimum meal each?
Edited by SilverEye 01/06/2012 9:51 pm
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Valued Member
United States
493 Posts |
Some say, eventually the zincs will even be hoarded.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yes I just keep them but separate them out. Nickels too! Both will be debased so worth keeping
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