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 Posted 07/20/2011  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
mac...it is about 75% interest...my feelings are if you cannot afford a 20 year mortgage, you are buying way above your means, then add the fact that you paid twice as much as the buying price of your house,it just doesn't make financial sense. A 15 year mortgage is your best bet if you must borrow.
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Wages? What if you have the money you would have spent on housing invested somewhere that it's getting a better safe return?
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Maybe it sounds a little difficult, but retiring without a pension at 51 was worth every sacrifice...getting to spend lots of time with my family now..priceless.

Indeed so. My wife retired at 51 and I retired at 55... so, we're not exactly suffering either.
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Indeed so. My wife retired at 51 and I retired at 55... so, we're not exactly suffering either


And that is exactly why I preach so hard against debt, most of my friends will be working into their 70's because of it....it's not as much fun fishing alone
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If any wealth is to be "redistributed", then let those who created it see to the redistribution as they see fit.


If we did that then they would "redistribute what little the rest of have left, right into their own pockets.
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Well I feel sorry for the younger generation, however me and my wife never charged anything in our life. We had our house paid for by the time we were 45 made extra payments when we could. Never paid one cent of interest to the credit card companies I have never had one the wife does but she is good and always pad them off at the end of the month so no interest.

We did not have new cars and much for the first twenty five years of our marriage but we also had only one payment the house.

But houses are so expensive these days back in 2002 I new this housing thing had to happen the value was way to much on them.

We paid think it was around $22,000 for our house since then made it twice as big though but guess it is valued at around $225.000 now here in Central PA. Anyway prices for houses are still crazy here and they are still building nothing but town houses or BIG houses.

Credit is what consumes all your earnings.
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Credit is what consumes all your earnings


I wish our government would understand that, or at least care !
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If we did that then they would "redistribute what little the rest of have left, right into their own pockets


Tim, I think he means "let those who earn it decide if they want to give it to somebody else".
Which goes with a saying I heard recently " A government cannot give away anything without taking it from somebody else first"
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And that is exactly why I preach so hard against debt, most of my friends will be working into their 70's because of it....it's not as much fun fishing alone

Wife and I never had much in the way of debt. Yes, we have a mortgage but our free cash flow is 6-7 times that, so servicing the debt is not any kind of problem. We've never had ANY credit card debt. Paid cash for all but one of our cars and then paid that off in 2 years. Makes me chuckle whenever one of those things comes in the mail that promises to "reduce your debt" or "improve your credit score". Actually, I have no idea what our credit score is and could not care less. We have no need to borrow any money again, so... pffft!


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Tim, I think he means "let those who earn it decide if they want to give it to somebody else".

Exactly so.


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Which goes with a saying I heard recently " A government cannot give away anything without taking it from somebody else first"

Yep, which is right up there with, "A government strong enough to give you everything you want is also strong enough to take away everything you have".
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