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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This one has had my stumped for years. I have taken it to coin shows and dealers still didn't know. Hopefully someone on CCF will know. The reverse looks like pattern number Pn8 and the obverse looks similar to Pn6 with a different date. Not sure of composition. Could this just be a replica? Any help would be appreciated.   |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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My guess is that the Paris Mint would have produced this piece as an example of their work in order to win a coinage contract from the Chilean Government.
How many were produced?
If my premise is correct, I would say less than 1000, and probably as few as 200.
It seems to me that those twin 'V's are sopposed to look like a 'W'.
I love collecting these sort of numismatic mysteries. Most of the coins in this category in my collection have come from dealer's junk boxes, but there is the chance they could have significant value, if only they could be positively attributed.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Thanks sel for the info. I love these type of coins too! Especially, the ones from South America. I got this one off of ebay years ago for less than $10. Have never seen one, and I was the only bidder  Next coin show I go to, I need to take it to heritage and see if they know anything. |
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Valued Member
Canada
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Could TW&W be the agents for the Chilean Republic at this time? Chile was settinmg up for decimal currency at this time.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It seems to me that those twin 'V's are supposed to look like a 'W'.  Interesting how they improvised--they obviously did not have a "W" punch. Was this used as a pin? That raised area looks soldered to the coin.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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DVCollector, Fair question, I agree with what you are inferring.
The answer: probably. I can't think of a better answer.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It's too crude to be a Paris mint piece.
What you actually have is a button, rather than any type of coin/token/medallion. T W & W was a well known button company and often made buttons depicting designs and coat of arms found on coins of the period.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This would be one big button. It is about the size of a silver dollar. If you have a Krause for 1801-1900 (page 186 for 6th edition with the orange cover) look towards the end of Chile in the pattern section under Pn8. The reverse looks very similar to this.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1666 Posts |
The size is not unusual for a mid-19th century coat button. T W & W really did not make any other items besides buttons. If you research them you will find other buttons with coin designs of various sizes from small to large.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Thanks for the info Numismat! I will do some research and see if I can find more about it.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Oddly enough - I think Krause has a picture of one of the buttons as well. Here is a T W & W button version of another Chilean pattern design: http://www.ebay.com/itm/290576104447Same size as yours and also silver-plated brass as your appears to be. Very interesting story given for their purpose. =) Edited by Numismat
09/05/2011 9:19 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Numismat: Looks like you have nailed this one! Well done!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
570 Posts |
Thanks Numismat for the link! Interesting story. I guess I have expanded into buttons now . |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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That other button clinches it  Obviously, a different reverse die to yours, but again they used VV to make a W. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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No problem! =)
I never though about the possibility of a "pattern" button. I guess it's basically a salesman sample, which explains why some of them are without a loop.
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Valued Member
Spain
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Hello. Recover this topic, perhaps I can add some information. TW&W corresponds to TRELON, WELDON & WEIL button-makers from Paris, they were actives 1844-1970, but probably this mark is from 1844-1870. They made buttons (named gaucho buttons) for Argentina, Chile, Uruguay .... usually copy (also facsimil) of coins of this countries and also copy of old spanish coins. For example this:  V. |
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