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1892 Liberty Head Qtr

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 Posted 11/23/2006  8:01 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add shatsi to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
One of my recent purchases for the type set. I would like your opinion on it, what would you grade it? I will reveal the grade later.

1892-Liberty-Head-Qtr

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 Posted 11/23/2006  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Shatsi

Nice looking coin,,

AU-50

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 Posted 11/25/2006  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shatsi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Anyone else?
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 Posted 11/25/2006  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ms-62 my great coin!!!
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 Posted 11/25/2006  12:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, this is a really good one. A little anecdote:

A few months ago I submitted 4 Barber quarters to ANACS. I considered 3 of them low MS (62-63), and one to be a decent AU. I got back 3 AU58's and an MS63. The one I thought to be AU was the MS63.

Needless to say, that caused me to reevaluate my personal standards for grading Barber coins.

After much consideration and loupe work, I concluded that the defining area on my coins was the wingtips - that's the only place I could see what could possibly be considered wear on them. Now, here's why your coin is a good one for me.

The obverse of your coin is not as nice as any of my 4. Yours shows either strike weakness or wear all through the right side of the leaf crown, and the hair above the forehead. There's what I believe to be wear at the top of the cap. I may be wrong on both counts.

Here's one of my AU58's for comparison:

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1892-Liberty-Head-Qtr

Your reverse shows very little wear - I'm believing that there's more detail on the shield than the photo shows - but there's still a touch on the eagle's neck and at the wingtips. Depending on the obverse (is it a weak strike or what?), I'm going to call yours AU50-55.

Oh, yeah - I put my 3 AU58's on ebay with strong, top-of-the-market Buy It Now's for the specified grade. All 3 were gone in 48 hours, two of them to someone associated with the Bass Collection.

The MS63 hasn't sold in 3 tries.
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 Posted 11/25/2006  3:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shatsi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, Its ANACS AU58. Got it off Heritage.

SuperDave, you don't have your ebay ID listed in the member ebay pages. I would really be interested.

Thank you for your opinions.
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 Posted 11/25/2006  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by shatsi

OK, Its ANACS AU58. Got it off Heritage.

SuperDave, you don't have your ebay ID listed in the member ebay pages. I would really be interested.

Thank you for your opinions.



I can believe that. The more I look, the more I think the lighting might be masking obverse detail.

Mine were sold in May, and aren't in the ebay archive any more. I will get myself into the Members' ebay listings - didn't realize I'd overlooked that. It doesn't matter, anyways - all I've got left to sell are 1921 Morgans.

Well, with a couple exceptions.
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AU-58? I graded it 50 due to the reverse shield the vertical shield lines are all but gone ,eagles feet on the reverse Ribbon ends,rub on the cheeek and cap and numerous hits on the obhverse,, I'm sorry Shatsi I'm glad for you that the slab says AU-58 but I cannot agree with the grade of this coin.

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 Posted 11/25/2006  11:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shatsi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by Metalman

AU-58? I graded it 50 due to the reverse shield the vertical shield lines are all but gone ,eagles feet on the reverse Ribbon ends,rub on the cheeek and cap and numerous hits on the obhverse,, I'm sorry Shatsi I'm glad for you that the slab says AU-58 but I cannot agree with the grade of this coin.

Rick



I see what you're saying, specially compared to SuperDave's qtr, the vertical lines are gone.
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 Posted 11/26/2006  10:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Was that an old holder, or a new one?
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 Posted 11/26/2006  2:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shatsi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by SuperDave

Was that an old holder, or a new one?



Its a new one with the light blue label not the dark blue.
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