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At what grade should I expect to "lose" the cartwheel on my silver coins?

I expect all of my "BU" coins to exhibit a nice cartwheel, but how about the AU stuff? The XF stuff?

Any rules of thumb out there?

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Cartwheel luster does not necessarily depend on grade.

Heavy patination on a mint state coin can severely reduce luster.

Obviously, circulation wear will also reduce luster, but a VF coin can retain luster in the devices.
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Good points.

In particular, I pick up XF-AU silver from time to time that has very good luster, but no cartwheel.

There is a small nagging voice in my head that suggests that these coins may have been cleaned, polished, or otherwise abused. . . . . . .

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On Lincolns the cartwheel effect generally goes away when you get below AU. On an EF Lincoln you can see sometimes see luster, but it's more of a flat type rather than cartwheel.
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From silver coins that I have seen, though there are exceptions, if they grade below EF they usually will have no traces of the original luster left. EF coins may or may not have luster and that is usually limited to protected areas. AU coins is where you begin to see a significant portion of the original luster.
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