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1788 Barbados Penny

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 Posted 08/05/2011  6:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add justin654 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello everyone. With this coin comes a story. I'm 19, And when I was way younger, Around 6-7, My father and I used to take walks in the wooded areas behind my house. Well, We used to find a ton of coins in the dirt and mud around the woods. This is one of the many we found. I feel this is the most important one we've found due to the fact that it's the one that stood out most to me. I know nothing about this coin. Which is why I'm here. I would LOVE to know ANY information about it. I've kept it for this long without knowing anything. I feel its time to find out. Sorry for the ramble. Also on a side note, When looking at the coin, It appears almost completely black. I'm not sure what the original finish is and I'm scared to clean it with something. Any tips on restoring its natural color?

Here are two pictures I have taken. You can click the image again to make it bigger.

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Enjoy!
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 Posted 08/05/2011  7:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alganbagerap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are many differing varieties of this coin. Small/large pineapple, small/large head and mixtures of the two. It's a very good find, but I'll leave this one for the real experts.
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Thanks for the reply. I hope one of them real experts see this thread. :)
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not very "politically correct", but these fetch high prices from collectors who are keen on social history ... and perhaps others.

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 Posted 08/05/2011  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justin654 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
:O Care to elaborate?
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That's an interesting coin, and in nice shape for finding in the soil!
At Krause's online catalog, it states the mintage is only 5,376
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Thanks for the link. Any input on if I should clean it with some baking soda and water or should I leave it the way it is.
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I would not scrub the coin with baking soda; it will scratch the coin and lessen its value.
Leaving it as is won't hurt it. Some people have other methods to remove corrosion.
I have tried soaking coins in mineral oil. I soak them for several months, and have seen improvement.

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Much appreciated. Someone mentioned to sit it in Acid Free Olive oil for 6 months, Then sitting it in the window sill for a year, Turning it once half way through.
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Krause states that that particular variety has that very low mintage. The most common variety has a mintage of 200,000.

Someone posted one of these recently over on CU, and posted a link to this site, where there's an excellent die chart letting you know how to spot the differences between the 10 known varieties of this coin.

By my reading of that chart, yours is listed as one of the rarer early types (die pair 1-A), the type listed in the catalogues as Pridmore #10, Krause #Tn4. This type is listed as a proof made for colelctors, rather than for actual circulation on the island.

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not very "politically correct", but these fetch high prices from collectors who are keen on social history ... and perhaps others.


Care to elaborate?

The symbol of a crown with three ostrich feathers in it is the badge of the Prince of Wales. The Prince of Wales also uses the motto "Ich Dien", which is German for "I serve". Thus, there are two oblique references on this coin to the Prince of Wales; the mystery is what the link is therefore with a negro.

In 1788, King George III was unable to continue with his royal duties due to his progressing insanity and the Prince of Wales, the future king George IV, became Regent in his place. But British law made no allowances for disempowering a reigning monarch in this fashion, and the legal somersaults which Parliament had to go through to get the Regency enacted were widely unpopular in some circles. I can only assume the message which the issuer of this token wished to send was, "The Prince of Wales is a..." and you can insert a contemporary euphemism for "person of African ancestry" here.

The coins are quite popular here in Australia, because of the "1788" date.
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 Posted 08/06/2011  12:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justin654 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very much appreciated!!
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