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Would this be considered an error? If so, what value? Thanks all,John1   |
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O.K. be that way, I'm taking my ball and going home  
John1
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Bedrock of the Community
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Ok, now I get it once I had a chance to look in Krause. It is a bimetallic coin with an uncentered center. When the center hole was punched out, it was not perfectly centered on the ring. Because the bronze center was not centered, the central design strayed onto the ring when the coin was struck.
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08/08/2011 10:43 pm
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Thanks Bio. Would it be an error or a variety? Any added value? Thanks for the help. John1 |
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It would be considered an error but I am not sure how much value it would have, I have no idea if the uncentered issue is common or not in Italian coinage. I have seen some other world coins with this same issue though.
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Where is in not centered?
If you are referring to the right edge of the building protruding into the outer ring - that is completely normal for these coins and exactly how they were designed.
I see no error in the picture.
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I would agree with,biokemist6 this is some sort of error. Numismat I have 500 lira about (30 pieces total 3-5 from year) bimetal from that series (1982,1983,1984,1985,1986,1990,1991): KM# 111 500 LIRE 6.8000 g., Bi-Metallic Bronzital center in Acmonital ring, 25.8 mm. Obv: Head left within circle Rev: Plaza within circle flanked by sprigs and only one piec of mine has a this  I used John1 your picture as sempel but my date is 1990. I never did look at that,but it is some sort of error. |
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If you go to Google, click on the images tab, and type in "500 lire 1987", or any other year for this type - you will quickly see that all the examples of this type have the design exactly like this.
Again, this is not an error, it is the normal design for this coin.
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08/10/2011 10:31 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Or perhaps it is just sloppy planchet preparation and slight center position variation is perfectly allowable by Zecca Dello Stato standards.
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Pillar of the Community
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Biokemist - you are probably right about that. With this particular type I have often seen sloppy centering. It is usually very minor, with just the bottom most Braille dots touching the center portion, but exists pretty commonly for these coins.
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Sorry Numismat I googeld too you were right. All pieces of 1987 that I have googeld are same like this one.  |
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There are bimetallic coins from several countries that have a similar issue with the design. It's always important to compare to other examples to know if the coin is an error or not.
If it were an off-center error, it would be worth between $50 and $100 auction value and $100+ retail. Italian minting standards are not the strictest, but significantly off-center coins of this type are quite rare.
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