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Pillar of the Community
2222 Posts |
Come on I'm not stupid!
Why does a big time seller with a huge sales record have to do this? This is a $50 coin, two of 10 bidders below on the same coin.
Does anyone have a valid reason for this or am I just overlooking something?
One Bidder
30-Day Summary
Total bids: 1067
Items bid on: 424
Bid activity (%) with this seller: 99%
Bid retractions: 0
Bid retractions (6 months): 3
Another bidder on the same coin30-Day Summary
Total bids: 250
Items bid on: 238
Bid activity (%) with this seller: 79%
Bid retractions: 0
Bid retractions (6 months): 5
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3276 Posts |
does that mean he has other accounts bidding up his items so the winner has to pay more?
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Valued Member
United States
361 Posts |
Both are pretty obvious. The first one is laughable. There are sellers out there who do this regularly. They do not do it themselves or from the same computer. That would be too easy for ebay to track. I think they probably do it for one another or just create a new user id and use a different computer. ebay gets more money for themselves with higher fees so I don't know how much they really care. I think you should report the shill bidders and see what happens. |
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Pillar of the Community
 2222 Posts |
I did report them through this site
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
19935 Posts |
It goes on ALL of the time, it's just disgusting. I stay far, far away from the blatant shill sellers and there's a few on ebay that are involved. Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
20753 Posts |
With auctions this sort of thing is a lot more common that most realize. In auction houses, estate auctions, ebay, other on line auctions it goes on all the time. Usually in smaller quantities so less noticed. Many with relatives and friends get together and pull this commonly. Kids in schools also get together and to that. And the more it gets advertised, the more people will start doing that too. |
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Valued Member
United States
404 Posts |
This isn't just an ebay thing. I've been to a few live auctions and hear it from people there that a lot of shill bidding goes on. Most times it's not the auction house doing it, the customer who has the item up for auction will have a friend come in and bid it up a few times. It's just easier to see on ebay. ebay does take this seriously, even though they profit it from it, they're not going to lose customers or their reputation to make pennies more. |
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Valued Member
United States
374 Posts |
Do they ever win any of his auctions? Bid retractions to me are a red flag and ebay should monitor them better. |
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Pillar of the Community
2222 Posts |
Don't know the answer to that one. Haven't heard back from ebay either since reporting it. Don't expect to either. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
20753 Posts |
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Most times it's not the auction house doing it, the customer who has the item up for auction will have a friend come in and bid it up a few times. I think you'ld be amazed at how much of this goes on and is the auction houses that are doing it. I once met a someone I went to school with at an auction where he was bidding on all kinds of just stuff. I asked him after what was going on and he said that was his job. He and a few others are paid to bid items up. They do this on ebay, on line auctions, local and estate auctions. If he or one of the others wins the auction, the item is put aside for a while and then put back up for auctioning. For ebay too my Son has many of his college friends do things like that. They all get together have fun and make money too. |
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Valued Member
United States
315 Posts |
I simply set the price I am willing to pay and that is what I bid. If it goes past that, oh well, then I simply find another auction to bid on. If I suspect shill bidding I report it to ebay. The more people who report shill bidders, hopefully, the more serious ebay will take it. |
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Valued Member
Australia
193 Posts |
I agree GTALLAN, one can avoid the effect of shill bidding if you predetermine a price and stick to it. This principle is held whether bidding on a house (didn't win) or a coin. Most I don't win either, but the ones I go for are not unique by any measure and another chance will come.
I'm happy to lose the auction but keep my shirt.
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Posted 08/09/2011 11:38 pm
