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nikola Valued Member Croatia (Locally: Hrvatska) 342 Posts	Posted 08/28/2011 4:34 pm Hi I nead small help with identification. 1. 2. 3. And are they fake,what do you think? Thank you. Report this Post to the Staff

Sap Moderator Australia 16849 Posts	Posted 08/28/2011 6:55 pm #1 is China, the Jia Qing emperor (1796-1820). Need to double-check the mint. #2 claims to be Xian Feng (1850-1861), but the coin has too narrow a rim for coins of this time period. The edge is also unfinished. I suspect this one is a replica. #3 is from Japan, the standard Kanei Tsuuho 1 mon, blank reverse, "new" type, issued 1668 to 1867. With no mintmark, I don't know if the date can be narrowed down much further than that, however, this is a 1 mon coin and made of copper, so it probably dates from before the 1730s, when 1 mon coins began to made of iron instead. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
manymore Valued Member United States 347 Posts	Posted 08/28/2011 8:39 pm Quote: #1 is China, the Jia Qing emperor (1796-1820). Need to double-check the mint. Yes, it is a jia qing tong bao coin cast during the reign of Emperor Ren Zong. It was cast at the mint in Nanchang, Jiangxi Province and, according to Hartill's book, this "dot top left" variety was cast during the years 1796-1805. Quote: #2 claims to be Xian Feng (1850-1861), but the coin has too narrow a rim for coins of this time period. The edge is also unfinished. I suspect this one is a replica. It's authentic. Coins like this are extremely common in China. There are entire books written on the varieties of xian feng coins. The Chinese usually refer to this type of small and poorly cast/finished coin as "degenerate". Gary Report this Post to the Staff
xodusna New Member United States 35 Posts	Posted 08/28/2011 9:56 pm I have about 150 coins that look just like that lol.. I will follow this thread to see if you have any more that I could match up Report this Post to the Staff
coinsnpaper Valued Member Canada 480 Posts	Posted 08/30/2011 04:25 am It s possible to get the dates much more accurately on the Japanese coin- I have some books from the 1970's that show many of these pieces, with both mints and dates- determined by the carities of the strokes. It is a painstaking process, but untimately quite interesting. The same goes for Chinese coins- there was usually some small varieties of these coins which determined which year, and often mint (North Furnace, South Furnace, etc). cast the pieces. Outside of Berger, which only went to 1735, I am not aware of any detailed work for Chinese coins. I know Berger was working on the later years, but, as far as I know, nothing was published. Report this Post to the Staff
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