Does Anyone Have Any Patterns? (Backward Head Uneven Date)

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oih82w8 Pillar of the Community United States 7840 Posts	Posted 09/07/2011 11:47 am I saw the Walking Liberty thread coming up and I thought of one of the more popular Walker patterns, and did some more looking and found this one (not mine of course) and was wondering does anyone have any "pattern" coins in their possession? The Backward Head design. The obverse is similar to the regular-issue 1839 gold eagles, with a rounded tip on the forward edge of the bust truncation and a pointed tip on the rear edge--but the entire head faces backward, right rather than left. Thirteen stars ring the rim, with date 1839 below. The reverse is from the regular-issue Seated Liberty die, Large Letters, of 1842-1853. Struck in copper with a reeded edge. Saul Teichman notes on USPatterns.com that he believes these are restrikes produced in the 1870s, and throws down the gauntlet challenging collectors to try to match the reverse die to a regular-issue proof. The present example weighs 174.3 grains according to the accompanying envelope, while Pollock notes that it weighs 172.0 grains. PR67 Brown $37,375.00 (Jan 6, 2009 HA.com) Edited by oih82w8 09/07/2011 2:18 pm Report this Post to the Staff

XavierOfGreen Pillar of the Community United States 2589 Posts	Posted 09/07/2011 6:01 pm Ive put bids on a few before but have never managed to win one. They always seem to go for more than I expect them to. Report this Post to the Staff
D0ubl3Eagle Pillar of the Community United States 5854 Posts	Posted 09/07/2011 6:27 pm I forgot who it was but I remember someone posting recently of some patterns that they purchased. I think one was a flying eagle pattern and the other was a braided hair large cent pattern. Report this Post to the Staff
Rayman311 Valued Member United States 489 Posts	Posted 09/07/2011 10:13 pm D0ubl3Eagle- Those may have been mine. I posted my 1855 Flying Eagle and 1854 Braided Hair pattern coins. Here is the thread link: https://goccf.com/t/96200 I'm a big fan of both of the designs. Report this Post to the Staff
oih82w8 Pillar of the Community United States 7840 Posts	Posted 09/08/2011 08:14 am I missed your listing Rayman, those are indeed really nice! Was the 1855 FE the Large Cent size? Report this Post to the Staff
Moe145 Pillar of the Community United States 8904 Posts	Posted 09/08/2011 08:51 am I don't have any pattern coins (I would LOVE to have some). They certainly are interesting and a great part of our numismatic history! Report this Post to the Staff
Rayman311 Valued Member United States 489 Posts	Posted 09/08/2011 6:30 pm oih82w8- "Was the 1855 FE the Large Cent size?" Correct, IMO the size is a nice compliment to the bold design. Closer to the size of the Half Cent. It's really something to see. Here is my 1855 including some details on the pattern (courtesy of Coin Help): 1855 P1C Flying Eagle cent, Judd-168 Original, Pollock-193, R.4 Thirteen stars surround an eagle that is flying slightly upward, similar to the Christian Gobrecht/Titian Peale flying eagle design for the Gobrecht dollars (and soon the Flying Eagle cents). The reverse design is similar to the issued large cent. The diameter is intermediate between the large cents struck for commerce in 1855 and the small cents that were first produced in 1856. Struck in bronze with a plain edge. The 1854 Braided pattern cent is also an appealing design. IMO the obverse maintains an elegant appearance (similar to the one you posted) yet appears "cleaner" and uncuttered without the stars. 1854 P1C One Cent, Judd-161 Original, Pollock-187, R.4 The design is similar to the large cent then in circulation, but there are no stars on the obverse, and the planchet is smaller--just about 25.4 mm (1 inch), compared with a diameter for the regular large cent of 27.5 mm (1.08 inches). Struck in copper or bronze with a plain edge. While the measurements above do not seem to be a dramatic difference, it is one that is immediately noticeable. The corresponding weights, of course, differ as well. Originals and restrikes are known. The originals, per Pollock, weigh in the neighborhood of 91 to 100 grains (5.9 to 6.5 gm), while the restrikes weigh around 113-114 grains (7.3-7.4 gm). By way of comparison, a standard 1854 large cent would weigh 10.9 gm when new. PCGS has only certified one piece as a Restrike. I'm interested to see what other pattern coins our fellow collectors on the site have tucked away and plan to share. Report this Post to the Staff
Rayman311 Valued Member United States 489 Posts	Posted 09/08/2011 6:33 pm Here's an 1855 on the bay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/11073682610....m1423.l2649 Report this Post to the Staff
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