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 Posted 11/01/2015  6:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ray truly amazing I have read this thread many times. what I have learned from this thread. one the lighting, setting the camera and focus. you know what makes the camera work that is where my weakness is I don't know enough yet about the functions and the setting. I will say thou that I am starting to master them. if I can get to 70 to 80% of your work level. I will be very happy with that. thanks for this shoot out. it is a great one. on yes ray there is a new shootout on the web with both of your rodenstock going head to head with a Olympus 80mm f4 very interesting the rodenstock 75mm 2:1 mag was considered the best over all. but the first part of the shootout 75mm rodenstock 1:1 mag lead them but fell behind as the magnification was increased. the shootout is easy to find. I still don't know how to attach a link here have a great one
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 Posted 11/01/2015  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pepactonius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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there is a new shootout on the web with both of your rodenstock going head to head with a Olympus 80mm f4 very interesting the rodenstock 75mm 2:1 mag was considered the best over all. but the first part of the shootout 75mm rodenstock 1:1 mag lead them but fell behind as the magnification was increased. the shootout is easy to find. I still don't know how to attach a link here have a great one


Some while ago, compared the central resolution of an Olympus 80mm f/4 bellows lens with a 75mm APO-Rodagon D 1x lens, both at 1x magnification using a 1951 USAF test chart. Just looking at the image captured directly by the Canon T6s sensor shows that the central resolution of the overall system is essentially the same for both lenses at f/4 and f/5.6 (f/8 and f/11 effective): about 80.6 lp/mm. This is about 3 pixels on the camera sensor, which is about all you can expect, especially with the Canon T6s anti-aliasing filter.

In order to show the superiority of the APO-Rodagon, I needed to use the Rick Littlefield technique using a 10x Mitutoyo microscope objective to photograph the areal image of the two lenses. This technique removes the camera sensor as the limiting factor in measuring resolution, and is described in an old thread over at Photomacrography.net

Using the 10x objective, the actual lens resolution for the Olympus lens is about 181 lp/mm at f/4 and the resolution of the APO_Rodagon at f/4 is about 203 lp/mm. At f/5.6, both lenses show a resolution of about 128-143 lp/mm according to the test chart.

Note that this test tells us nothing about field flatness or chromatic aberration, etc., and the results are valid only for the single copy of each lens that I have.
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 Posted 11/05/2015  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
pepactonius wow I have been doing quite a lot of reading on this stuff. I have leaned that everybody has a preference. when it comes to taking pictures. the shootout is very detailed. if I recall when the magnification went 2:1 it was the Rodenstock 2:1 first the Olympus and Rodenstock 1:1 at about the same. I was wondering did you find that shoot out. myself I don't know much about the Olympus. I would imagine it is a great lens. I just thought ray might like to read that shootout because I know he did a test with both the Rodenstock in a comparison. I think most lenses if tested preform very well. have a great one, ray has shown that here in his test. I believe that most of the problems shooting coins is more about the lighting then anything else. that is about the metal and which coin one is shooting copper versus silver. if we can all get on top of the lighting the rest gets easy to do. ray showed his little light adapter. I am putting one of them together. I will see if it makes a difference with my photos.do some photos with your Olympus and share them. so we can see your work. I would like to see your work and how this lens preforms you have a good day.
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 Posted 11/05/2015  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pepactonius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I was wondering did you find that shoot out.


I didn't find it, unless you are referring to coinimaging.com, which compares many lenses, including the Olympus 80mm. Perhaps you could give us a term to do a Google search with, or type in the URL?

As for samples with the 80mm Olympus (on both good and bad days), check out the CCF thread "How far back can we go? Third Edition - 2015!" in the Main Coin Forum. I have uploaded many photos there starting on page 46 (1932).

Almost all of the photos that are not tagged with something like "scanned-in film prints" are taken with the Olympus 80mm lens and a modern Canon DSLR. The film prints were usually taken with a Nikon FE SLR and the 55mm Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 lens, and all were taken prior to 1998.
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 Posted 11/06/2015  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
pepactonius thank you. I will do that. I will go check some of that out. I would like to see your work again thank you. I will go and get that link . I will call my son he will tell me how to attach a link here. have a great one
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 Posted 11/06/2015  10:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ok hope this works.http://macrosmuymacros.com/index.ph...-frame-test. I should have remembered how to do this. how do you guys get these links to show up in blue and all you have to do is click on it.
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