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Spain 1883, 1867

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 Posted 09/21/2011  09:57 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Costi to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello, I'm from romania and I'm happy to be a new member in this community. if you could help me please I also have a problem with a coin. On the both sides of the coin are portraits, on one side is Alfonso XII with year 1883 and it says " ALFONSO XII POR LA G DE DIOS " , and on the other side is Isabel 2, year 1867, and it says " ISABEL 2 POR LA G. DE DIOS Y LA CONST. ". I have to mention that the coin it's made of gold( or at least it seems to). And the size is 20 mm. I will wait for your answer and opinion please. Thank you very much
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 Posted 09/21/2011  10:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure what your question is, Costi. Or problem.
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 Posted 09/21/2011  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Costi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My coin doesn't have a value. On the both sides of the coin are portraits.... a coin should have a side with the leader and the year she was made, and the other side with the value ( 1 peso, 2 peso, 4 peso, 50 cents). My coin has the both sides with leaders, one side with Alfonso XII 1883 and the other side Isabel 2 1867. So there is no value like 1 peso, 2 peso or cents or something. understand now? what's up with this coin? I also mentioned that it lookes like it's made of gold and the diameter is 20 mm.
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09/21/2011 11:34 am
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 Posted 09/21/2011  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe it is a medal and not a coin...


What does the edge look like..? does it appear to be joined, over lapped etc. as some times they would join two different types of coins together..

Can you post a picture which would be a lot easier to help id this.
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 Posted 09/21/2011  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Costi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's not over lapped. It's exactly a coin. I will put some pictures later, that should clarify the problem. You will see, it's a coin but both sides are with portraits as I said. It's pretty interesting. So.... I will put the pictures later and we will see after thatwhat's up with this coin. I mean, I hope you will tell me what's up if you know cause I don't have any idea... And thank you for answering my problem.
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 Posted 09/23/2011  08:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Costi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are two pictures of the coin. I'm sorry I couldn't make them better, but I hope it will help. It's better than nothing. It's hard to take a clear picture because the coin it's only 20 mm.

Spain-1883,-1867

Spain-1883,-1867
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 Posted 09/23/2011  08:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Costi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On the side with Alfonso XII it's writed " ALFONSO XII POR LA G DE DIOS " , year 1883, and on the other side, with Isabel 2, it's writed " ISABEL 2 POR LA G. DE DIOS Y LA CONST. " , year 1867. I will wait for some answers please. Thank you very much.
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 Posted 09/24/2011  12:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Costi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Please help. Somebody any idea about this coin?

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 Posted 09/24/2011  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is not a coin, but a sort of medal (perhaps for use in jewelry?) with a copy of the effigies of Isabel II and Alfonso XII as used on their coins. A coin with both effigies on the same coin doesn't exist. The effigies are very poor copies.
Normally on coins of Isabel II (queen of Spain 1833-1868) you find the legends ISABEL 2 POR LA G. DE DIOS Y LA CONST on 1 side and REINA DE LAS ESPAĆ'AS on the other side (Isabel the second, by the grace of God and the Constitution, queen of Spain).
On the coins of Alfonso XII (king of Spain 1874-1885) there is on one side ALFONSO XII POR LA G DE DIOS and on the other side REY CONSTL. DE ESPAĆ'A (Alfonso the twelfth, by the grace of God, Constitutional king of Spain)
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 Posted 09/24/2011  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Costi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So... it's a fake, that meaning the coin have no value. Am I right? But who would make fake coins like this? I mean, what they get?
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 Posted 09/24/2011  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
not so much a "fake" as a derivative. Medallions such as this are often used to make costume-jewelry, bracelets, necklaces, etc. Or as tokens, or souvenirs. But I would not expect it to have a high value, unless you can relate it to a particularly significant place, event, or person.
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