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 Posted 09/26/2011  09:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add schockergd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's fun being able to restock supply that was sold off, however does anyone know anywhere that's selling generic 'junk' silver? APMEX is out of their 90% outside of $1000fv bags.
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 Posted 09/26/2011  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add schockergd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's what I think we will see happen with silver :

1 week of EXTREME volatility like we've been seeing, daily dips down to maybe $25oz just like we saw today , however I think the median will be in the area of $28-$30/oz. It will eventually stabilize and come back up like it has done every time CME has hiked the margins. However when it comes back, we'll see a max of $35 or so per ounce, till CME decides they want to try and kill it again.

I can understand CME wanting to kill silver/gold for the most part, tons of demand and lots of fake paper for very little physical assets.
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 Posted 09/26/2011  10:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Us buying physical is only a tiny portion of the silver traded. Most of it is just paper silver. We make a small sacrifice in liquidity, but if something bad happens, they would be the ones up a certain creek without a means of propulsion
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 Posted 09/26/2011  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lukkyseven to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those people have Millions of dollars - so their creek is probably silver lined. They wouldn't be as bad off as we would expect.
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 Posted 09/26/2011  10:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am buying in smaller lots for the few day and ahead, mostly going to be silver. And it's in au /uncirulated rolls.
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 Posted 09/26/2011  11:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SDcoinguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i think its is very possible to see silver drop back to $9. ever since 2008 there has been fear instilled in investors and everyone else putting PM's the GO TO save haven. NOW, we see more and more investors running back to the US dollar and NOT the PM's.. I think what we are seeing is not only a big sell off, but almost a return to normalcy? I mean WHAT REALLY HAS CHANGED from OCT 2008 to make PMS do what they did.. FEAR? amidst other political and economic fall out...

i almost dropped $200-500 on saturday on silver. I am glad I stuck to my guy and held off. I think the smaller investor should hold off until things stabilize. but who knows when that will be.

if many of you are SO confident that it will go back to the $35-40 range, what makes you so sure? playing devils advocate here, but I for one would agree with you. HOPING that buying NOW when things are cheaper, to feel better about my purchase later when it goes back up. but I for one am not in this for the short term gains. I'm thinking long term. so the question is, am I that confident that any PM will hold its value and give me a good return on investment 20-30 years later? whos to say that the USD wont bounce back? CHina is having problems if you havent heard...
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 Posted 09/26/2011  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverCoinBoi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I havent heard...
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 Posted 09/26/2011  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheForce to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Curious, does market saturation contribute to the decline in prices at all? I mean the world mints are pumping out record numbers of bullion coins.
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 Posted 09/26/2011  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mmerlinn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Market saturation of fabricated products may have a small play, but the price is based on the total supply and total demand. The total supply changes slowly. The demand changes fast.

One of the reasons total demand is dropping is because of margin calls across the board in all markets. Margin calls must be met. That means many investors are being forced to sell PMs. Once that gets flushed out of the system, the demand will return, and with it the prices.

The dollar is currently bouncing back relative to other currencies. But that can't last. Once the EU gets its house in order, the next major problem lies with the dollar. And since we are "printing" money to prop up the Euro, we are signing our own death warrant for the dollar.
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 Posted 09/26/2011  2:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ICanSeeYou7687 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just bought 25 oz's!

Hope it doesn't come back to bite me in the ass, few $$$ above spot, but not a bad deal.
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 Posted 09/26/2011  10:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I am glad I am in it for the long haul.

Indeed so. I am as well and buy from time to time regardless of price. I am collecting ounces here and am not especially price sensitive. Buying regularly is more important to a long term collector than every price wiggle that comes along during our acquisition period.


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Those people have Millions of dollars - so their creek is probably silver lined. They wouldn't be as bad off as we would expect.

Indeed they do but they can also take some spectacular losses as well. This has happened in the past with various brokerages losing billions of dollars on bad bets. Yikes!


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whos to say that the USD wont bounce back?

At the moment, economic fundamentals are saying that. The US does not value saving. Saving is what provides wealth to entrepreneurs and other wealth creators so that they can create MUCH more wealth as well as products, services, and jobs. Printing trillions of fiat paper dollars HAS to make all of the dollars in circulation worth less. This inflation of the currency is essentially robbing the dollar-denominated savings of millions of Americans as well as those of foreigners who have accepted US dollars in payment for their manufactured goods and raw materials. Ever cheaper dollars is not a great plan for financial success or a US dollar that is rising in real value terms. Recent dollar "gains" are often due to the drop in value of other fiat currencies to which the dollar is then compared.

In the short term, games are being played in the metals markets. These will eventually fail because they rely on artificial manipulation. While this appears to work in the very short term, economic law is not to be denied in the long term. Eventually, it WILL crush those who are trying to manipulate it to serve their particular ends. The USSR tried it and forced it to work for 70 years. Eventually, though, economic law prevailed and their house of cards collapsed. The very same thing will happen to all others who try this as well. The only real difference is how long can they stave off the inevitable collapse.
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 Posted 10/04/2011  07:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Eventually, it WILL crush those who are trying to manipulate it to serve their particular ends. The USSR tried it and forced it to work for 70 years.


If we count from 1914, we're already 27 years overdue.

If we count starting today, I suspect most of us will be taking dirt naps in 70 years.
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 Posted 10/05/2011  02:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to say for sure what would be a good staring point. Several are available, such as when the US dollar 1st became the World Reserve Currency or perhaps when Nixon took us off the gold standard in 1971. How about when Roosevelt signed his infamous gold confiscation edict? Add to that the fact that the US economy is still quite large, about 25% of world GDP. Maybe it's just that we have more inertia on our side than the Russkies did?
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