Neat Silver-Plated Portrait Fake/Counterfeit On Ebay.

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TwoKopeiki Pillar of the Community Czech Republic 803 Posts	Posted 09/27/2011 3:47 pm Don't see the plating exposed quite as dramatically as this often. Definitely a high coolness factor. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1798-Mexico...em588ff825da Report this Post to the Staff

tokenmast Pillar of the Community United States 648 Posts	Posted 09/27/2011 4:12 pm Report this Post to the Staff
DVCollector Bedrock of the Community United States 10045 Posts	Posted 09/27/2011 9:05 pm Cool! I'm guessing that's an old, contemporary counterfeit? Report this Post to the Staff
Numismat Pillar of the Community United States 1666 Posts	Posted 09/27/2011 10:33 pm How cool it would be if this was a counterfeit of a counterfeit. Like, a later counterfeit of a contemporary Sheffield plate counterfeit. Report this Post to the Staff
swamperbob Pillar of the Community United States 5362 Posts	Posted 09/27/2011 11:58 pm It is definitely a "Sheffield Plate" coin. I do not recognize the type but I have not tried really hard to do so. I classify it as Class 1 (Contemporary Circulating) I am snipe bidding for that one but if anyone is super interested in it I would pass. I would advise however, that I know two other specialists who are also watching that one and I do expect the price to go over $100. So if anyone is interested above the $225 level let me know. It appears to be a poorly attached plate - like many of the Roman fourees were. I expect it is cold rolled over a "white" metal as opposed to copper because of the delamination. It took the Sheffield manufacturer's some time to perfect a Silver on white metal plate that was successful in use. I also believe the obverse could be peeled off just as easily. I see a large loose spot on the King's neck. For me the most interesting feature would be the edge application more than the face dies. The early white metal copies all peeled on the edge BEFORE the faces - so I expect there is no edge left at all. Is it possibly a forgery made recently? - Good question. I do not know. The portrait is TERRIBLE so I guess it could be. It certainly is not up to the standard employed in the Birmingham mints supported by the English government. But I have not seen one of this type yet - they are striking Riddell varieties but so far I am not aware of a decent Sheffield copy of a Portrait. But it would definitely be interesting. Report this Post to the Staff
swamperbob Pillar of the Community United States 5362 Posts	Posted 10/09/2011 7:02 pm The coin arrived and it is clearly an OLD Sheffield Plate on a copper core. It is NOT a modern knock off based on the patina on the exposed core. It is a new variety. And for anyone interested it did sell for a dirt cheap $79.99. Edited by swamperbob 10/09/2011 8:16 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Unique Antique Gallery New Member United Arab Emirates 13 Posts	Posted 12/13/2011 04:57 am WOW...it certainly is a neat counterfeit of a different metal plating! Report this Post to the Staff
swamperbob Pillar of the Community United States 5362 Posts	Posted 12/13/2011 1:50 pm Sheffield Plate is an "old" form of plating used before there was electroplating. The surface layer is silver of the correct assay and the coin is a metal sandwich. It is a mechanical not chemical bond. The pressure of rolling the metal together creates a bond - the metals fuse together sort of like a weld, but less complete. That is why in some cases the surface will peel off. The technique was developed in Sheffield, England in the 1770's hence the name but it resembles in practice the silver plating used in ancient Rome to plate copper. The ancients are called fourees. Sheffield forgeries were plentiful in the colonial era and form the bulk of "good" forgeries. Report this Post to the Staff
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Neat Silver-Plated Portrait Counterfeit On Ebay.