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Islamic Pos Ottoman Large Silver For ID Please 1904

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 Posted 10/02/2011  07:26 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Atlantia to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all,
Couldn't resist this rather large silver even though its been mounted (thankfully not too badly)
It's got a date of 1322 (1904) on it.
Weight is 28g.
Diameter: 38mm
Sorry for the picture quality, it's actually significantly better condition than it looks here!
Laurels look Ottoman but no Tugra so?

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10/02/2011 07:29 am
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 Posted 10/02/2011  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weavus135 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm certianly no expert but I would say this is a Yemini coin. Possibly Y7 Imadi Riyal. The 1322 is the asencion date according to Krause.
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 Posted 10/02/2011  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ElleKitty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I vote this one as Imadi Riyal, from Yemen. :D I love this series. Many of them were stamped over Maria Theresa Thalers, my example was.

Silver coin of Mutawakilite kingdom of Yemen, Imadi Riyal, 1344 (accession date AH1322), Imam Yahya (1322-1367-1904-1948), silver, weight=28.07 gr
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 Posted 10/02/2011  2:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Atlantia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent, thank you both very much for the help.

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 Posted 10/02/2011  11:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am no expert on the coinage of Yemen - but the dentils are very suspicious here. Looks like a doubled image that is slightly out of alignment on the second impression. In addition, and even more suspicious is the angle of the dentils. Some are radial while others are at a steep angle to the rim.

I have seen a very similar looking edge ONLY on counterfeit coins made by transfer technology BUT never on an original coin from any country.

Is this a NORMAL situation for Yemen issues and if so, how did they do it?

After I posted this I noticed that there is a collar line visible on the second photo - so I am raising my concern from Possible forgery to ALMOST CERTAINLY a forgery.
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 Posted 10/03/2011  05:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ElleKitty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have never presumed to be an expert on forgeries, and quite often I am likely fooled. However, since I insist on liking this sort of coin, I am trying to learn.

The thing that is troubled me about this coin is the actual design. Usually the silver Riyals have two swords crossed, where on this coin it has two laurel type leaves also seen on the gold riyals. This may well be a forgery, I don't know. I can post my own coin for comparison, which is from a later date and from the Ahmadi, instead of the Imadi.
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Imam Ahmad 1948-1962 (AH 1367-1382). Ahmadi Riyal AH 1380 = ~1960. Yeoman 17

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 Posted 10/03/2011  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weavus135 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the laurels are not an issue. Y7 is definitely OK to have the laurels. But the rim issue mentioned does raise a question with me as well now that it look at it more closely
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 Posted 10/11/2011  1:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Atlantia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Which part do you want more pictures of Peeps?
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Have a look at the right picture: at 3 O'clock in from the edge you can see the remains of the halo around one of the eagle heads of a Maria Theresa Thaler. The other Halo is at 12 O'clock. On the other photo look at the left (as we look at it) sword blade on the blade edge near the tip you can see the remains of some of the Maria Theresa thaler script. As stated earlier Ahmadi rials were overstruck on MTT.
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