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Declining Quality Of Uncleaned Ancients

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 Posted 10/08/2011  3:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ancientcoinguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I received a purchase of 15 uncleaned Roman + 1 AE1 bonus coins today from a very reputable ebay seller. I have purchased from this seller in the past and have been extremely pleased with the outcomes. However, the coins I got were disappointing.

Although uncleaned, it was clearly evident that every single one would turn out to be either a slug or only partially attributable. Given the effort it takes to clean them, it is obviously not worth my time to do so. I contacted the seller requesting a return and refund of the rather lofty price of $40.

My question to you is this: Have you noticed a large decline in the quality of the uncleaned coins on the marketplace recently? I have seen one. Also, why is the price for these lesser-quality coins so much higher now than in the past? I am assuming it has something to do with the amount currently available to sell.... Thanks.
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 Posted 10/08/2011  4:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have seen and increase in price and a reduction in quality since the beginning of the year. Because of this I haven't bought any uncleaned coins since than. I don't think it's because the amounts have decreased. Costs from the overseas sellers have gone up so deallers are paying more so therefore we are paying more.
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Might this have to do with a tightening of export laws regarding ancient objects? Is it harder for sells from Mediterranean countries (Although I realize that Cyprus is pretty strict) to get their goods onto the global marketplace nowadays?
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 Posted 10/09/2011  08:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This may have something to do with it to:

https://goccf.com/t/99768

I wonder if the coins are now more often being cleaned for resale en masse rather than sold?
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 Posted 10/09/2011  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ancient coins are a bit like fossil fuels: there's only a finite amount of them in the ground, and we're getting better at finding them. Theoretically, we'll run out of the easily findable stuff one day, but I think that day is still far off in the future.
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 Posted 10/09/2011  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ancientcoinguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That day will bring a river of tears shed by myself and others in the hobby. I know it is coming, but I don't want it too!

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