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 Posted 05/22/2012  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
Every time you open your safe, you allow moisture to enter with all new air. This moisture and new air is now trapped inside that safe until opened again. And every time it is opened, the same thing happens. A safe is not really safe for coins since it locks in whatever was in the area when last opened.
For one thing, get rid of those Folders. They have glue on the rear of the slots. You can touch each coin when opened and leave finger prints on the coins. IF you do want to keep those, then at least put each one in a Zip Lock Plastic bag, push out as much air as you can prior to sealing them. However, an Album is a lot safer.
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 Posted 05/22/2012  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list
Fire safes are fire-resistant because they're deliberately designed to keep their contents slightly moist; this prevents paper objects placed inside them from spontaneously combusting while the safe is engulfed in a fire. The people that make fire-resistant safes don't count on people placing moisture-sensitive objects inside them. You can counteract this tendency by loading it up with desiccant, but you're really fighting against what the safe was designed to do.

I'd recommend, if at all practical, to swap it for a burglar-proof safe instead.
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 Posted 05/22/2012  09:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silvercoinrn to your friends list
If you want to keep the moisture out of your safe put a jar of rice in there it will absorb the moisture.
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 Posted 05/22/2012  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add orlywutlol to your friends list
So keeping the coins in a fire safe is a no go then? All along we thought we were doing a good thing. When I was little someone broke into our house and burned it down. My parents and grand parents coin collection suffered severe smoke and fire damage. So we thought keeping the coins in a fire safe would at least give one more level of protection if god for bid something like that would happen again. I guess we were wrong.

I never knew that coin folders caused such problems with coins. If I have known that I wouldn't have bought all new coin folders but went with albums instead. What do you guys use for your collections?
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 Posted 05/22/2012  1:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
Wow...there must be sulphur contamination in the cardboard.
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 Posted 05/22/2012  3:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveCaruso to your friends list

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I think its 1.23 cubic feet?


200 grams should work fine. Just be sure to replace it every 2-3 years.


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Fire safes are fire-resistant because they're deliberately designed to keep their contents slightly moist;


This is not quite the case, especially as most fire safes are rated for holding firearms and ammunition.

Fire safes are "fire safes" because of the fire resistant boards on the sides of the safe's construction. The boards make it act like a thermos or multi-pane window glass, allowing breaks that resist the heat invading the payload.

This is why they are rated in BTU or minutes or hours, as that is the amount of energy/time that the contents of the safe stay below 451 degrees when exposed to an external temperature of (usually) 1,200 (and these numbers should be listed *on* the safe somewhere).

For example, mine is rated to 62,000 BTU or roughly 30 minutes at 1,200-1,400 degrees (and for a safe the size of mine, that's pretty good).

The fact that they also tend to be air-tight is why they can retain moisture. Moist air let into it stays moist without a proper desiccant so a fire safe stored in a moist basement will, in the course of normal use, get moist air in it.
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 Posted 05/28/2012  4:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add orlywutlol to your friends list
I am a bit undecided here. Considering I bought all new coin folders ($75 worth) without reading much into folders vs albums, a big oopsie by me. I plan on using them for my "secondary" collection (lower grades) and keep my higher grade stuff in interceptor 2x2's or maybe even go the PCGS slabbed route on the really high value coins.

Ugh I'm even changing my mind as I type. I could just say the heck with it and scrap the coin folders all together and go with the album route. With albums though I noticed there generally are two versions. One with holes for proofs and one with out. What are your thoughts about busting up proof sets to put proofs into an album? Seems kinda silly to me I personally rather keep my proofs in the original proof holders.

Also if I scrap the coin folders do you think there will be any resell value for these to try and recoup some of the cost?
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 Posted 05/28/2012  4:37 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
Slap em on ebay.
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 Posted 05/28/2012  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Center Pin to your friends list

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What are your thoughts about busting up proof sets to put proofs into an album?


I sure wouldn't do it.
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 Posted 05/28/2012  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list

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What are your thoughts about busting up proof sets to put proofs into an album?


And now for something completely different....I get pleasure breaking my coins out of those ugly plastic mint holders. They look so much happier in their albums...

It is really a personal choice..do what thou wilt!
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 Posted 05/28/2012  5:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list

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And now for something completely different....I get pleasure breaking my coins out of those ugly plastic mint holders. They look so much happier in their albums...

It is really a personal choice..do what thou wilt!

and I think a large majority of collectors feel the same way
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 Posted 05/28/2012  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list
Used folders don't sell for very much.

What a shame! I think coin supplies are just one of those things that you definitely get what you pay for. Some products around it doesn't matter, socks for instance, who cares if they're brand name or not. Cheap = nasty in the Coin World IMO.
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 Posted 05/28/2012  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
I went with Intercept Shield albums. They're pretty nice.
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 Posted 05/28/2012  9:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add orlywutlol to your friends list

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I went with Intercept Shield albums. They're pretty nice.


Would you be able to post a few pictures? I cant seem to find any good up close photos.

Also as lame as this sounds, could someone post a few pictures of their dansco album with the slide pulled out? I'm curious how the coins go in.
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05/28/2012 9:23 pm
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 Posted 05/29/2012  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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One with holes for proofs and one with out. What are your thoughts about busting up proof sets to put proofs into an album? Seems kinda silly to me I personally rather keep my proofs in the original proof holders.
I had, and continue to have, no problem breaking apart proof sets and putting the coins in my Dansco albums. As said above, it is a personal choice.
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