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Morgan Silver Dollar ?

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 Posted 04/25/2012  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveCaruso to your friends list
Aye counterfeit collectors exist. :-)

Most of us are into contemporary counterfeits where there are some who are in to modern counterfeits (I'm into both).

Contemporary counterfeits can be worth a few dollars (common cast counterfeits in brass or copper) up to hundreds if they are a famous variety. Such famous varieties include Contemporary Capped Bust Counterfeits, Contemporary Seated dime Counterfeits, Henning Nickels, and "Micro O" 1896, 1900, and 1902 Morgan dollars (which even have their own VAM, they fooled enough people).

Moderns generally go and trade for "face value" (modern mass-produced Chinese counterfeits) to under $25 (but the upper end of that is only found for very convincing examples of key dates or rare varieties with high novelty interest). They also trade at melt if they are made of precious metal.

I'd need a closer look to tell you what it'd be worth; however, from what I can see I'd guess you're only looking at a few dollars at best.
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 Posted 04/27/2012  03:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
Did you get it from statmatics, or did he get it from you?
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 Posted 04/27/2012  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add litenin to your friends list
RE: biggfred my coin ?
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 Posted 04/28/2012  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
There are two threads, one with you, and one with statmatics posting the coin. Three possibilities:
  • You're posting under two names
  • They're aging coins to make them identical
  • One of you got the coin from the other.

Here are the two coins, side by side:
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 Posted 04/28/2012  08:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
Any fotoshop whizzes out there who can adjust the pix on the right to look brighter, etc, like the left?
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 Posted 04/30/2012  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tatt2ed13 to your friends list
Example of someone using photo shop to edit the first photo -

Not a dead on match to the coins in the side by side photo .

But just showing it can be done to back up bigfredds thought that someone may have edited the original photo ..



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 Posted 04/30/2012  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
For the record, I compared the two users the moment a coincidence like this appeared, days ago. I am reasonably certain it's not possible that they are the same person.

The two photos, however, are similar to several decimal places. Had I been asked as one with reasonable knowledge of the digital photography process, I'd say they were the same coin.

I am *quite* curious about this.
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 Posted 04/30/2012  9:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
Other than both coins are obvious fakes, they both have very similar, if not identical wear, damage and discoloration. The only difference I see is the rim damage at 12:30 on the darker example.

The answer to the question of value - zero to most collectors.
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 Posted 04/30/2012  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hermanwilliams to your friends list
The game is afoot!

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 Posted 04/30/2012  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tzarmarko to your friends list
This is interesting.... Very Interesting....
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 Posted 05/01/2012  11:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
What I'd like to see is one or both of the OP to step up to the plate and do some splainin, Lucy.

Can lucky bobby compare ISP addresses?
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 Posted 05/01/2012  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add litenin to your friends list
The lighter looking pics are mine. I submitted them here and other forums to try and find some possible explanations. I have collected coins for years one way or another and this is my first mystery coin. Perhaps that is unusual perhaps not. My guess is someone at another forum re-posted my pic here also wanting to hear more possibilities not to start a conspiracy theory discussion!

So far I have only got 2 or 3 opinions !?

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 Posted 05/01/2012  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
The only two possibilities are a genuine Morgan with an altered date or a fantasy fake. There is zero chance it is a genuine 1870 since George Morgan did not even emigrate to the US until 1876. How much does it weigh?
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 Posted 05/02/2012  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list
It's the same coin. Here are both photos: OP photo on top resized; and second coin with color saturation reduced and brightness increased.



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 Posted 05/02/2012  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
Let's see a photo of the reverse. I'd like to see what the reverse variety was of the "donor".
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