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Pillar of the Community
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That is a real nice looking piece. I love the perimeter toning. I'll say MS66+FBL
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I have to say that I'm very upset by what I just saw on the PCGS website for my order status. They have deemed the coin "questionable color" which really upsets me knowing the origin of this coin having sat in a coin book in an attic for over 20 years. I'll have to rethink sending the rest of my collection to them.
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Boo-hiss. That looks like regular album toning to me.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Pffft, questionable color? That is classic album target toning that develops over the course of years or decades. That is a coin I would love to have in my Franklin set regardless of what PCGS thinks about it  |
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I have quite a few Washington quarters with bulls eye toning that are gorgeous but thinking it will be a waste of money to send to them since they came out of an album also. The thing that makes me mad is it's almost like they are calling me a liar and saying that I put the color on there. These were in my parents attic for over 20 years and nobody has touched these prior to my grandmother putting them in there. Guess I need to cool off but thanks everyone for voicing your opinions on this. One has to wonder if their guarantee policy makes them grade things on the very conservative side? |
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Breath slowly - enjoy your coin! I have had similar experiences with PCGS.  |
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Breathing slowly lol...this whole experience has been an emotional roller coaster ride. First the post office lost my package and it took a almost two weeks to get there then the grades they gave my coins. One was a 1962D Washington quarter that was incredible and they gave it a MS65. The one I sent had very very minute marks on it only seen under 20x magnification and a luster that was blinding. I'll just wait until they are back to make any further comments. |
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Remember, you can always take your business elsewhere.
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"Remember, you can always take your business elsewhere." You're right about that and would love to hear your opinion on whether this was appropriately graded at MS65?   |
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To be honest, I think they were generous with the quarter. There appears to be too many luster grazes and marks on the face, neck, and eagle's breast to make MS-65. I think a grade around MS-63/64 would be more appropriate. I am still scratching my head over that franklin though. I don't think there is much to question on the origin of that toning.
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"To be honest, I think they were generous with the quarter. There appears to be too many luster grazes and marks on the face, neck, and eagle's breast to make MS-65. I think a grade around MS-63/64 would be more appropriate. I am still scratching my head over that franklin though. I don't think there is much to question on the origin of that toning."
I'll have to look for a better picture as the coin doesn't look like the photo. The face and neck really look clean in hand and under magnification. I had multiple people look at this prior to submitting and they were all wowed by the luster this throws off.
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Well, I'll be the devils advocate on this TPG grading. Wouldn't send a coin to them and never had. I feel it pointless and unnecesary, a coin is what it is and any knowledgeble collector or dealer will pay you for your coin whether slabbed or not. Slabbing coins is good for authenticity but as for grading or toning issues I personally am not interested. When you first posted this coin I wondered about the toning and said as much, but, I'll take your word for it's handling. Good luck! |
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I also think the quarter is over-graded at MS65, but luster counts for more than contact marks sometimes with TPGs. It also matters more when looking at a coin in-hand. Photos tend to emphasize technical flaws and diminish luster.
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Pillar of the Community
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Strictly from the pics posted, I think the quarter is graded appropriately. TPG are supposed to be a neutral, objective opinion as to the grade of a coin. Now, they are not always neutral, however, your opinion is not either. It sounds like you have some sentimental feelings about these coins, which is great, but that shouldn't interfere if you want a strict technical grade. I submitted a 1950d Jefferson nickel and a 1956 type 1 proof Franklin half that I received from an original mint set my nana gave me. I thought they should have graded MS67 and PF67 respectively, but they each graded at 66. That nickel was one of the nicest I've ever seen and had amazing eye appeal, but it was a 66. I posted a pic and that was by far the unanimous opinion here as well. I had to accept that despite what I thought. Your proof looks original to me and looks to be a gem. |
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I really do appreciate the comments that everyone is giving. The pictures really make the coin look horrible and will have to wait to get them back and take some better ones. It was really tough taking pictures of it with the glare coming off it and in hand it looked gorgeous.
The 1964D toned Washington that I posted pictures of above is what I'm now concerned about. If they are going to call the Franklin questionable coloring than what will they say about all the Washington's I pulled out of the albums? They came from the same set of boxes that the other coins were packed in. Will I be wasting my money sending those if they look like the one above?
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