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Quote:---Regarding your so called proof! http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...IC_ID=103826that's a pretty one but what proof is that, just because you say so does not necessarily make it a mint error, reality. ---IMO I say at best a novelty product, plated! ---Show it to us certified! 1. Not because I say so, but because the instrument says so. You now want to debate against the laws of physics? You believe the opinion of a grader at a certification company, but not scientific fact? 2. It is because "I said so", to Louis Chevier of CCCS, that both examples in this thread are certified. PCGS also has certified planchets identified by me, based on their compositions. Specifically, two dollar off-metal strikes. ICCS does not certify off-metal errors, except the 1859 brass. CCCS, unlike you, trusts the results of the instruments - in fact, CCCS and major dealers alike send me stuff to analyze the composition of some of their "mystery coins". 3. smallcentguy, would you mind photographing and posting the "proof" for that 1942 cent, including the photo of the coin in the CCCS hard holder? t_y, want to bring one of your off-metal twoonies over, so I can photograph the "proof" in a PCGS holder? So, when a policeman pulls you over for speeding, do you believe the speed measured by the radar gun, or do you counter what the police officer says with your "humble opinion"? Sheesh... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Many times opinions are given on chat boards which lead those seeking information down the wrong path. It is very difficult to challenge an opinion with typed words. There are MANY known examples of legitimate off metal errors being "written off" as plated etc. because that is what the main stream has SEEN, not because they know. I own a vast number of off metal errors (Canadian) and fought for years with others about it. Do silver 1 cent coins exist from 1940........YES.......are there plated versions.....YES......are there mercury coated coins.....YES. Value 1 cent? ummmmmm for at least one of the above .....yes. To advise that this is anything factually from the images (except counter stamped....to some will add value)provided is impossible. The coin would have to examined in hand. JOP dollars are PMD but highly collected. Many Mason's may wish to have this. To give advice which is potentially flawed as has been done here, does a service to no one. I have gained a reputation by educating about counterfeits and errors. It is difficult to get collectors to think outside of the box. Look at the 1 cent coin posted. There are only 2 facts. 1) it is counter stamped 2)it is not as intended(copper colour) All possibilities must be considered. To say using a poor image that it is plated is an error no error collector should make. commoncents13, read the article in Canadian Coin News challenging the "Errorman's" authenticating of a HOME MADE errors. It is a good one. |
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Heh... Morning nickelsguy, a great day for fishing walleye....
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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--Lastly, I don't care if you have an opinion on a coin "but" I especially just don't care for your criticizing us for ours! I take exception to that! Welcome to the real world. Our hobby advances by asking questions and being critical of the norm. Frankly, dismissing a coin's composition based on a low resolution photo is fair game to having different opinions. I never stated that the coin was legitimate, I only offered to test it for free, before it is tossed away... and showed examples of other coins dismissed by Internet opinions, that were, in fact, legitimate off-metal errors. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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05/11/2012 09:04 am
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Has the coin been weighed yet?  That is the first question that should have been asked and then answered quickly but the OP has not returned for four days now. |
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SPP can I come for the opening of walleye with you?
Non of my buddies are going this year!
(Sorry if I'm high-jacking this thread.Didn't mean too.)
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I don't have a photo of the 1942 at hand and the coin is currently in safekeeping. But I will get a photo taken soon. unfortunately, I would say that the photo earlier in the thread does capture the true colour. It is a completely uniform white silver colour.
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--Lastly, I don't care if you have an opinion on a coin "but" I especially just don't care for your criticizing us for ours! I take exception to that! You reply with: Quote:
Welcome to the real world. Our hobby advances by asking questions and being critical of the norm. ---Criticizing with demining and derogatory name calling is not necessary. ---You just sollidified my opinion of you and for all to see!  "Thanks" Edited by commoncents13
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Read my signature guys...!
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That's a good one --Wert--. Read mine!
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Excellent commoncents13I have realized that when I post a question (I AM NO EXPERT with coins), I listen to opinions from other, that is part of the process of an open forum. Software program, maybe I am a so called expert( even then that's debatable...  ) I don't know if the answers are coming from some one who knows less then me, or a coin expert...I don't really care, I accept ALL opinions, and I weed out the ones I don't think are correct.... That's my story and I am sticking to it. |
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SPP can I come for the opening of walleye with you?
Non of my buddies are going this year!
(Sorry if I'm high-jacking this thread.Didn't mean too.) No worries collectall, the thread had already been high-jacked. I would much rather talk about walleye fishing... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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You just solidified my opinion of you and for all to see! Please refer to the previous thread that you hijacked and trolled on: https://goccf.com/t/116884&whichpage=2I'll repeat here, again, for you. You completely overestimate how little I care about your opinion, or a virtual reputation in a virtual world. I am not here to impress you or anyone else. I offered to test the coin in this thread, for free, because you, like so many others, blatantly dismiss coins based on a single, poor-resolution image. I think you were the only person who actually interpreted the point of my message to be "demining and derogatory name calling". Then, you posted to specifically invoke a response - that is trolling, plain and simple. Congratulations for hijacking another thread. I almost can't wait for the next one... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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