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Our First Try At Making Homemade Silver Bars.

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 Posted 05/29/2012  5:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list
I would think that there is a certain specific gravity for sterling .925 silver.
Those are neat!


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 Posted 05/29/2012  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RealMetal to your friends list
I'm surprised the CR Scientific article didn't mention wearing a vapor-cartridge respirator. I certainly wouldn't try messing around with these dangerous fumes without one!
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 Posted 05/29/2012  6:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinwatch to your friends list
Those mini-bars of Ag look great! And I completely agree with your decision to skip refining to .999 given the unpleasant and hazardous byproducts involved in the process.
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 Posted 05/29/2012  6:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spider5689 to your friends list
Instead of purchasing a foundry, you can do what I am in the process of doing, building your own. There are many websites that give great tutorials on how to build your own, and the cost is far less.
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 Posted 05/29/2012  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add traevin to your friends list
Cool. I remember a thread discussing making silver bars a while back. You mentioned doing this, right? How much of the process were you able to take part in or observe? Overall, how difficult was it?
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 Posted 05/29/2012  7:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trdhrdr007 to your friends list
I took part in the last discussion about doing this & didn't really see the point....unless you just wanted to be able to say you did it. Having said that I'll admit I melted sterling & poured a crude bar back in the mid 80's. At the time I was a plumbing contractor. I placed the sterling into a cast iron ladle, heated it with a standard plumbing torch & poured it into a mold I made in a raw potato. The end result was a reasonably rectangular bar that wasn't quite as pretty as the bars shown here. It ain't rocket science.
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 Posted 05/29/2012  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add throwbackid to your friends list
Yeah, I was mainly just an observer in the process. We did not get into any type of refining because like someone else said it involves some pretty nasty stuff. Getting the sterling to melt really isn't the problem. I think our main problem was the fact that it cools so quickly using the torch we couldn't get an even melt. Probably just a novelty for me right now and at like $15 per oz I figured who cares ill buy 3 1 oz bars.
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 Posted 05/29/2012  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter S Thomas to your friends list
I've melted a lot of lead at home, car battery's and such, and that is easy due to the low melting point.

The problem as you get up in temp is the difference in temp over your crucible. Hot on one side, cold on the other.

To overcome this you need to contain the heat from your torch using fire bricks.

Build an enclosed space out of the bricks with openings, (closeable ones are even better), for the crucible and torch.

Can be pretty cheep if you do it yourself.

Then the only problem you may have is the time to pour, but that can be overcome by the crucible you use. The heavier the better to retain heat during the pour.

Cheers
Pete
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 Posted 05/29/2012  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Penny4Me to your friends list
I would prefer weight identifier be shown in g (grams).
when you go to sell .925 silver & 10k-14k-18k Gold; it is by g (grams)!
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 Posted 05/29/2012  10:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add samsnate to your friends list
I kind of like them! I also find it funny that the close up is of (i guess you) holding the big bar. What not the 1.02? LOL. :-) CHEERS!
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 Posted 05/30/2012  09:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trdhrdr007 to your friends list

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Probably just a novelty for me right now and at like $15 per oz I figured who cares ill buy 3 1 oz bars.


I'd buy all they had at $15/ozt....if I watched them make the bars and/or knew the guy making them well enough to know he wasn't cheating. Of course I'd immediately send them to my refiner for a quick profit.
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 Posted 05/30/2012  09:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tripncoins to your friends list
Man, I think this is just really interesting. I'm just too inexperienced to even attempt something like this. Plus, I'm a little bit on the lazy side and would purchase them pre-made...lol.
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 Posted 05/30/2012  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list
Those look great! I tried a similar project using pure silver and ran into problems with the liquid silver absorbing oxygen from the air. When the ingot cools the oxygen bubbles out and creates large craters and voids in the final bar. This is characteristic of pure silver and I assume the sterling alloy doesn't do that. It also melts at a lower temp than the pure metal which makes the process easier to control.

Great project. I wonder how large a bar you can produce?

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 Posted 05/30/2012  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add throwbackid to your friends list
It is a 5 oz mold we have been using, so I would imagine he could go up to that. I bet they sell molds up to probably 1000 oz but I'm not sure about that. This was a cool side project and with scrap sterling it is usually very accessible and cheap. Like someone said you have to be sure you can trust the silver supply to be pure you are getting the real deal.

Youtube has some excellent how to videos on the subject that will work you through it step by step.

Tripin,

Ditto on the laziness aspect, I wish that wasn't the case but I think that is why there are only four of these in existence.:)
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 Posted 05/30/2012  8:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tmaring to your friends list
I use a commercial melter, 100oz size (they always refer to the gold capacity!) that will actually melt 50 oz of silver. You can get these cool little two-piece steel bar molds to pour into, some make a fixed size bar, others can be slid to vary the width of the bar. Here are some pics of me melting and pouring a 50 oz bar of .999 fine silver in preparation for rolling and punching blanks.

Note the use of the oxy-acetylene torch at the top of the mold. I was getting a really deep shinkage dimple in the tops of the bars and finally realized that if I were to pour more slowly, and keep the metal quite hot right at the lip, I could make the top of the bar come out almost completely flat. Also... it's important to use the oxy-acetylene with the oxygen turned off to carbonize the inside of the mold EVERY TIME... or else some silver will freeze to the inside of the mold during the pour and you get cold-shuts... which will fracture during rolling.

Tom Maringer
Shire Post Mint

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