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Pillar of the Community
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Hi, The last two rotated die coins I purchased were supposed to have been 45 degree rotated coins. When they arrived one was 40 degrees and the other was 35 degrees. Although the coins were not off that much it bothered me because the seller shipped a product that was not what it was promoted as in the obverse-only and reverse-only photos. I guess in the future I will insist that the seller of rotated die coins first send me (before shipping it) a picture of the coin with its reverse showing in a mirror directly behind it. The attached photo clearly displays a coin with zero degrees of rotation:  Just keep in mind that the mirror image will contain the inverted reflection lettering of the reverse side which takes a bit to adjust to. fyi, mdpmedia |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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That doesn't look like zero degrees of rotation. The Lincoln is upright so the base of the memorial should be horizontal for zero degrees. In your image it looks like it might have 5 to 70 degrees of rotation. (Which would be within mint tolerances.)
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That doesn't look like zero degrees of rotation Hello, I think my first photo used a tilted coin which was not parallel to the mirror's surface. Below one will find the same exact coin in a position parallel to the mirror which shows no rotation. IMHO, mdpmedia  |
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Pillar of the Community
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i think 3 out of 4 coins advertised as having 90 degree rotations have actually been 75-85 degree rotations. Kind of annoying since I only collect 90 degrees or more.
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Pillar of the Community
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I have a 1976-S proof nickel with a rotated die. what would this be worth?
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Pillar of the Community
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The Silver Searcher: How much is it rotated?
There are no known proof nickels from that year that are rotated more than 90 degrees.
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United States
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I have an 1864 2 Cent with a 135* rotated reverse. Is that rare? Input please. Thanks, Dan
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Pillar of the Community
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Die rotation on the 1864 is common usually around the 180° mark but I have seen aything from a few degrees to 180. The later years its less common.
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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I've been doing a set of Two Cent Pieces with every clock posistion. I've been surprised just how much some dealers (especially on ebay) are now asking for rotated pieces. I'm seeing $100+ premiums quite often, don't see them selling though, and as an active collector of rotated 2 centers I would never pay that much of a premium. But depending on the amount of rotation maybe 5-15% more than a normal coin of the same date and grade. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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All coins are going to be different in value in combination with rarity and rotation. I start looking at rotation at about 45 to 50 degrees if the coin is rare or the fact that the reverse is rare on certain coins. I don't buy many coins unless the rotation is 90 degrees or more and always love 180 degrees of rotation.
I have a couple of coins at 175 to 178 degrees, but not exactly 180 degrees.
Ben
ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
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There is no set amount of premium for rotated dies. Some coins, like the 1864 Two Cent Piece have a ton of rotated dies. So the premium is less. The closer to 180 degrees the more the premium will increase. Anything less than 90 degrees will most likely get no premium. If you happen to get a rotated die on a scarce coin than it will most definitely increase the premium, but there is no set amount. Key points: *The older the coin the more likely a rotated die will occur *90 degrees or less usually commands no premium *The closer to 180 degrees the better *There is NO set dollar amount of premium over value *Rare coin + Rotated die = Highest Premium Paid |
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There are definitely less rotated die error collectors than collectors of other types of errors. Low demand means lower prices, and that is something I'm not complaining about!
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Pillar of the Community
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w/r/t combining the most recent comments of both downtownsf and robbudo:  The only additional comment to make about human nature that has quite frequently occurred would be: 'If a statement of fact addressing a coin or any subject for that matter is 'printed' (as opposed to ‘spoken') either digitally or in ink, a majority of individuals reading this information will automatically 'assume' the contents to contain factual data'. And if one has the time to do so, always strive to ‘TRUST BUT VERIFY' using a second source beyond reproach especially when the exchange of Benjamins are involved... IMHO, mdpmedia |
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