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Cleaning A Misc Box Of Coins

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 Posted 06/23/2012  12:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ninamason to your friends list
WHOA!! Gorgeous!


As others have said: DON'T CLEAN THEM YET!! We'll get there in a minute, but first . . .

Not all the countries you are looking at will still have the coinage you're looking at (e.g. in the 50s, the Japanese retired the sen; the Eurozone is obvious; if anything in there is Chinese and predates Mao Zedong, 'nuff said), so be ready to dig. My first suggestion would be to divide your coins into three rough groups:

Western (Latin letters, like what you're reading this in); Middle Eastern (Arabic and Cyrillic characters); and Eastern (essentially, if it doesn't look Arabic or Russian and it's not in Latin letters, it's probably Eastern). Some Eastern countries use Latin letters (e.g. modern-day Vietnam), but that's okay--you're looking at how to make this easier on yourself, not how to be geographically correct in one easy lesson.

First, check out the Western coins, because these will be easiest. Look for words like "ein" and "une" that might give you a hint what language you're looking at ("ein" would be Germany or Austria, for example). You can type these phrases, and even completely unfamiliar ones, right into Google--a search for "Magyar" led me to the fact that I own a Hungarian coin. If you want to know more than "what country is this?", you can then refine your Google searches: "third reich germany coins," for example, or "1929 french franc coin," to learn more about your specific coins.

Next, your Eastern coins: start searching by country. "1930s japanese coins," "1930s chinese coins," etc., and use Google Images to locate the coin you're looking for. You can do this with your Middle Eastern coins, as well, but remember--names are going to be different (Persia instead of Iran; Palestine instead of Israel).

Once you know what coins you have, you can start looking at value: "What is a Japanese sen from 1945 worth?", for example. Rinse and repeat as you go. If all else fails, post some pics here--there's a whole forum for identifying trouble coins.


Now: to clean, or not to clean? Depends on the coin and the condition. I know nothing of antique coins except that some are made of gold and silver and I saw one last night from the Byzantine era that was way cool (some guy made it into a ring), so I'm not going to advise you on how to clean, if necessary--that would be a question for jbuck or someone else with his level of expertise. What I will tell you is that for modern coins, the advice I hear on this forum is pure hardware-store grade ACETONE. Please ask someone who collects antiques before you use this, though! I don't want to destroy your coins because they're made of a different metal.
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06/23/2012 12:19 am
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 Posted 06/23/2012  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list
I really wouldnt clean them at all even with the proper solution. If youre looking to sell them a lot of collectors would rather have the story behind the look than the cleaned look and if you arent to me at least itd be kinda cool to leave them how youre grandpa had them. But either the other thing to consider is do you really want the first coin you attempt to dip to be one of those coins. If you absolutely decide you must do it and wont have it any other way at least get some dirty pennies or something and practice doing it before trying on those.
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 Posted 06/23/2012  12:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list
Also
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 Posted 06/23/2012  12:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BenHalfRocks to your friends list
amida, yes, it's the round one. haha

enworb, I have a bunch with your avatar on them.

so much great information, everyone! I could spend some time here.
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 Posted 06/23/2012  01:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list
Next thing you know anytime your on the comp youll have this site open lol
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 Posted 06/23/2012  02:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EgCollector to your friends list
First Sort and identify each coin before you do anything with them, especially cleaning.
Try posting pics and many will be happy to help identifying the ones you dont know.
Post pics in the grading forum and you will have an idea about their grade and value.
By this time I guarantee that you will be hooked and will stay around forever

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 Posted 06/23/2012  04:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list
If they have my avatar on the obverse than they are coins of the British commonwealth minted during the reign of King George V. Those coins are probably from Canada seeing as you're in the US but could be from Australia, India, Ceylon as well as several other countries.

I dont know what youre intentions are with the coins once you have identified them but if theyre not worth a lot of money and youre not strapped for cash then please consider keeping them. Once theyre gone theyre gone and theyre a good memory of your grandfather. If you were to get into collecting as well it would be great.
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 Posted 06/23/2012  04:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list
Actually I can see two Australian pennies on top of the pile. One is King George V and the other is King George VI. If your grandfather served in the US Navy during WWII he likely visited Australia as did many US servicemen. If you can take photos of them and all others that you can identify as being from Australia then you could post them in the Australian section of the forum and we could grade and value the individually for you.
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 Posted 06/23/2012  05:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
to CCF. As you now know,do not clean the coins . Here is a link to a good token site http://tokencatalog.com/ and here is one for world coins http://www.ngccoin.com/poplookup/Wo...e-Guide.aspx Take your time and enjoy the hobby. And most of all have fun doing it.
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 Posted 06/23/2012  08:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BenHalfRocks to your friends list
I can't remember the last time I stayed up til 2am. I didn't wait for the cup of coffee and the morning like I thought I would, I worked the coin last night. And no batch of cobbler elves came over night to help me. But that's ok, I really enjoyed separating them. Now to figure out what they are.

My mom collected 1976 quarters, which I never thought was a big deal. I'll even admit to taking some for the ice cream man. As far back as I can remember hearing a silver coin, my head would turn and I've collected those silver. I bought a dollar from 1900 from a dealer early on, but that's all. The rest has been found during my career of working on/around the teller line in a bank. When my mom's dad passed, I inherited a collection of silver and bicentennial, everything from wheat pennies to Eisenhowers, the coolest collection EVER.

Foreign coins have always been more of a novelty. Souvenirs someone brought back for the kids to play with. Those darn Canadian pennies are nightmare to a teller, we had to show our drawer short if we had one. I never saw myself being interested, til now. When I first opened the box and remembered the collection was given to me, I thought about the cash value. After coming here, for just a few hours, I know I wont sell these. It's been crazy fun to think about figuring them all out.

And, an added benefit nobody saw coming. The history and geography I will learn from this is fantastic!

enworb, I was confused why the same face was on so many different coins. There are pennies from Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and Hong Kong as well as "one quarter India". I have never in my life heard of a half penny either, so that was fun to find. And there is Ceylon. I couldn't read it last night, but with fresh eyes and more light I was able to see that.

Oh man, who saw this coming? haha
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 Posted 06/23/2012  08:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tzarmarko to your friends list
EXCUSE ME!?!? I just saw someone say that Russian coins go into the middle eastern catagory. So I suppose Greece does too then? No really, you should separate by NATIONS not REGIONS.
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 Posted 06/23/2012  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stud722 to your friends list
Get yourself a standard catalog of world coins 1901-2000 edition. If you go to Amazon or bookfinder, you can pick up an earlier edition (prices will not be exact but might give you an idea) for less than $5 with shipping. Then, at least you will be able to identify most of the coins. In the front of the catalog it helps you find the country and other identifying marks. It is a great resource for pretty cheap.
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 Posted 06/23/2012  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stud722 to your friends list
Oh and also ! Enjoy your new coins
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 Posted 06/23/2012  11:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GoldenRing89 to your friends list
I would think that even if you wash the coins with just water, it may leave little spots on the coin.
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 Posted 06/23/2012  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ninamason to your friends list
Tzarmarko, that was me. Russia is a hard one to place because it's so big (until I was fourteen I thought it was part of the Western Hemisphere and had this vague idea it ran right under half of Europe, probably because when I was in elementary school the "Soviet bloc" was still on our maps--then I got to a geography class, and you can imagine my shock when I discovered it runs right above Kazakhstan and China), but since roughly half of it is placed above Middle Eastern countries (according to the map I'm looking at, anyway) and I have never once heard it discussed as being part of the "Asian countries," I grouped it as being geographically "middle Eastern."

I did not suggest grouping "by nation" because, if you read the OP's post, you will discover they do not know where the coins are from and contain "symbols I don't understand." Please allow me to demonstrate why this is a problem:

子に- 話皆僕輪ニナ

Is that a phrase in Chinese pinyin, or Japanese kanji? (For anybody curious, it's the latter, with a quick dip into katakana to spell my name at the end). If you don't know how to read kanji or don't know what language we're starting in (since kanji are derived from pinyin), how do you know which language the text is in? Answer: you don't. Most people think of Cyrillic as Russian, but Wikipedia tells me it's used in several other countries, as well. How can the OP know if the coin in hand is Russian or not, without friend Google and some searching?
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