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Cataloging The Collection?

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 Posted 08/06/2012  3:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ITVirtuoso to your friends list
I get a little frustrated with myself when I dont search properly before posting questions. It helps if I'm looking in the right section though :/ I just found http://www.numismetrica.com/ and http://www.libertystreet.com/shots21.htm elsewhere on this board.

I'd still like to carry on the conversation though as to who actually bothers to catalog and the long term thinking of some of you guys! Theory is as interesting to me as the implementation. I'll probably respond with a little more detail tonight after work
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 Posted 08/06/2012  3:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MadMortician to your friends list
I don't keep a catalog per say of my collection. Instead I use a spreadsheet program to track the amount of CRH I do, and then I make a notation of what coins I find (or what coins I don't).

The overall goal is that at the end of the year I can come up with some final tally of how many coins I've hunted through and what I found.

So in some small way, that list shows what I have because I am listing what I have found.
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 Posted 08/06/2012  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pertinax to your friends list
I have an Access database that I created to hold details of my collection, and later on I used a copy to hold details of metal detector finds (not mine, I hasten to add, I've never found anything except 17th C & 18th C musket balls).

I've used it for 4 purposes

  • to help me decide whether to acquire something - I can see at a glance whether I've already got a better specimen

  • to help me when identifying coins

  • to create a list of the most valuable items for the insurance schedule/premium calculation

  • to create a catalogue of finds for the municipal archaeological department



However, there's a lot more that I could do including storing pictures of my coins.

The database for coins has the structure


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Fields with Id in their title refer to linked tables.
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 Posted 08/06/2012  4:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list
This is a really good topic, keep the comments coming. Folks in my coin club were asking around about this. I thought i'd do a presentation on what different folks do or what software people use to document their collection. I recognize there is an array and different folks will like different levels of details.

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 Posted 08/06/2012  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list
I use an Excel Spreadsheet and provide a description, date of purchase, how much I bought for and the seller. I keep thinking I need pictures also, but don't have that.
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 Posted 08/06/2012  5:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list
I dont have a catalog per say but most of my coins are in some sort of binder or album so theyre all in the same place. Some others are in the PCGS slab box as I havent gotten the lighthouse albums for them yet. If I just had a bunch of random coins that werent really that were of marginal value above face I probably wouldnt bother to catalog those just like I dont catalog my bullion silver. Like carl said thats a lot of effort that could need a lot of changing but I do keep some sort of album for the rest.

With some of the series like my commem series Ill also use the PCGS set registries as a way to keep track of what I have and still need. Very low effort for slabbed coins and can be checked in just a few seconds.
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 Posted 08/06/2012  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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One of the points you bring to the table is remarkably curious to me. Leaving a relatively unmarked collection for your heirs. I've only been around here for a little while, but I've noticed one of the driving forces for entering the community is trying to value a recent inheritance and being completely overwhelmed.

1. I'm old and have no one that I know of that is interested in nor knows anything about coins.
2. When my time comes, I highly doubt that the value of my entire collection will be a concern of mine at all.
3. After I'm gone the only thing that could make me ocme back is hearing that someone just dumped it all in a bank.
4. I USED to catalog lots of those items mentioned here but at my elderly age, I don't want to spend the last of it documenting STUFF for someone else.
5. Not sure if true but if you seen those movies about Alexader the Great, at his end, when asked who he is he leaving it all to, I think he was supposed to say whoever wants it or something like that. Exactly how I feel about every thing I have.
And WOW, Sap, you really do have a lot of documentation.
I'm way to old for all that now.
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 Posted 08/06/2012  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list
I feel like its one of those things where if you did it all along youll continue, but to try and go back and do it is just a nightmare
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 Posted 08/06/2012  10:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list
I was thinking everyone keeps good records of their coins.

So that when you sell a coin at a profit . we can claim the profit
on income tax.

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 Posted 08/06/2012  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The_Duke to your friends list
I use MS Access for my database. Here is the structure:

ID (a unique serial number I track them with)
Year
Mint Mark
Location (where I keep it, album, 2x2, etc)
Denomination
Type
Notes
Grade
Qty
Price Paid
Retail Estimate

I find it easy to use Access, as I use it at work. I have many queries and reports that I can print out to bring to coins shows. I enjoy computers, so it is part of the hobby, too.


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 Posted 08/07/2012  03:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pertinax to your friends list
just carl makes a very good point about heirs.

Other than I, no one in my family knows anything about numismatics. When I shuffle off, I want my coins to be realised for their value, so I'm leaving my coins, medallions and books to be auctioned by numismatic auctioneers and the proceeds to charity.

As I live hundreds of miles from my executors, I think they'll probably appoint solicitors.

Having a database listing the more valuable items (anything over £20), they'll be able to check on disposal, and the solicitors will be partially constrained from stealing the coins.
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 Posted 08/07/2012  09:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
At one time, a long, long time ago, I started an Excel spread sheet with about the same info as Sap's list. However, over time I started to delete one item at a time. And also, since many items were given to me by my Dad, again, along time ago, most of the info would be a guess. I never sell coins and at my age, possibly to late to start selling now so many other mentions of prices becomes unnecessary to me. And once any collection grows to virtually many thousands of coins, such records becomes massive and time consuming.
Once a person gets older, their interests usually becomes more of how to spend what time is left, rather than making a list for someone else. The main purpose of such a detailed list of course is
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So that when you sell a coin at a profit . we can claim the profit
on income tax.
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 Posted 08/07/2012  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
I have a very simple spreadsheet. Nothing more, nothing less.
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 Posted 08/07/2012  11:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveCaruso to your friends list
I obviously use Numismetrica to keep track of my own collection (when you develop something, you tend to use it... a lot :-) ) but even though I already have an established database schema, I find myself tinkering with it here and there, adding new fields and trimming old ones. The current schema is rather complex with 16 separate tables and hundreds of fields (not that the end user *ever* has to manage them manually as a lot of those have to do with things like price guides, coin demographics, bullion data and social media functions). What the end user plays with is point and click and tracks everything automatically.

Everything on my personal account is primarily broken down by album or container (for my CRH stuff :-) ) with call numbers so I know the place to look if I need to dig something out. I tend to be a bit of a pedant with that, but as a trained librarian it kinda comes with the calling. :-)

I'm also keeping track of my kids' collections on it, too. They love being able to watch their stats and the silver prices and FMV go up and down as it gives them a sense of accomplishment.
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 Posted 08/07/2012  11:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpo to your friends list
I keep a pretty detailed catalog. I reference it constantly to know on the fly what I have and what grades I have when I am not sitting at home.

Almost all of my buying happens at estate auctions. You almost never know exactly what is going to be there and condition is impossible to know beforehand. The catalog makes for a quick and easy reference when I'm looking at what is available and what condition things are in. That way when I see an AU 1888 Liberty nickel I know immediately if it is an upgrade over what I have and I don't end up buying a third 1836 Bust half (since I bought a second one when I didn't have my list with me and thought I needed it).
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